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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AecPrwqjbGw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AecPrwqjbGw For me, buying BTC is buying out of fiat. Being able to have autonomous

by __s 9y ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AecPrwqjbGw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AecPrwqjbGw For me, buying BTC is buying out of fiat. Being able to have autonomous control of the currency I have the private keys to. I've been thinking lately: the rich invest their fiat into stores of value, while paying the poor in fiat which is soon to be worthless. This reinforces the current inequality Just plucking some thoughts from the aether of my mind. I'm currently holding because I can't spend, but technologies are going to be emerging which enable Steam et al to efficiently accept BTC, & I don't feel BTC is something to be sold-- only spent The growth rate will stabilize once the market settles on what the true value of this currency is. Then it'll just be a non deflating store of value which is also liquid

steeve 9y ago
Thank you for the detailed answer. I have some follow up questions. How can it settle on a value when there is a limited amount of Bitcoins Also, why would you spend it if it can double in value 2 months later?
- __s 9y ago
  I'm going to describe this in terms of gold; as a metaphor, you can replace gold with any other non deflating asset. There's a limited amount of gold. If you could atomically store your cash as gold yet still pay with it directly through debit, then you don't really need cash. But man does not survive on gold; so you must spend the currency By settle in value I don't mean settle on a precise fiat price. Because I'm thinking post-fiat. This may be idealistic, I know, but try to think from that perspective. By stable I mean the value of BTC shouldn't double every two months. Unless the goods it buys are becoming twice as cheap due to technological advancement There may be weird implications of having your mortgage be in terms of an asset that's non deflating, where if the economy is causing wages to go down as cost of living decreases it can become infeasible to pay for one's house in a year. Two things: banks can come up with a bank-coin which should inflate in order to stimulate long term loans, & maybe people should avoid debt. I personally live with my only debt being my mortgage So maybe BTC isn't a good currency to take out a loan for, but in that case if you can have the bank agree to a dogecoin loan it work outs. I only mention doge because it's an inflating cryptocurrency originally based on BTC, but ideally the inflating currency would be segwit so that one can make atomic payments to that currency with their BTC. Kind of going on a tangent here in this stream of consciousness but the core of this idea is that you can pay with BTC for something in a different unit, currently loans are in the unit of USD, but perhaps in the future loans will be in terms of a 'platonic housing price according to some index' unit
  - __s 9y ago
    (thinking a bit, really a BTC loan should just have a lower interest rate compared to what we currently have, as that's accounting for inflation)

by __s 9y ago

steeve 9y ago

Thank you for the detailed answer. I have some follow up questions. How can it settle on a value when there is a limited amount of Bitcoins Also, why would you spend it if it can double in value 2 months later?

__s 9y ago
I'm going to describe this in terms of gold; as a metaphor, you can replace gold with any other non deflating asset. There's a limited amount of gold. If you could atomically store your cash as gold yet still pay with it directly through debit, then you don't really need cash. But man does not survive on gold; so you must spend the currency By settle in value I don't mean settle on a precise fiat price. Because I'm thinking post-fiat. This may be idealistic, I know, but try to think from that perspective. By stable I mean the value of BTC shouldn't double every two months. Unless the goods it buys are becoming twice as cheap due to technological advancement There may be weird implications of having your mortgage be in terms of an asset that's non deflating, where if the economy is causing wages to go down as cost of living decreases it can become infeasible to pay for one's house in a year. Two things: banks can come up with a bank-coin which should inflate in order to stimulate long term loans, & maybe people should avoid debt. I personally live with my only debt being my mortgage So maybe BTC isn't a good currency to take out a loan for, but in that case if you can have the bank agree to a dogecoin loan it work outs. I only mention doge because it's an inflating cryptocurrency originally based on BTC, but ideally the inflating currency would be segwit so that one can make atomic payments to that currency with their BTC. Kind of going on a tangent here in this stream of consciousness but the core of this idea is that you can pay with BTC for something in a different unit, currently loans are in the unit of USD, but perhaps in the future loans will be in terms of a 'platonic housing price according to some index' unit
- __s 9y ago
  (thinking a bit, really a BTC loan should just have a lower interest rate compared to what we currently have, as that's accounting for inflation)