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Oh, that's great news. Blocking fake news sources would get me to try to switch some relatives back over to Firefox.
by kevinh 9y ago
Oh, that's great news. Blocking fake news sources would get me to try to switch some relatives back over to Firefox.
- catshirt 9y agoin addition to the closet racists, the last election seems to be outing the closet fascists.
- QAPereo 9y agoMaybe it would be more helpful to stop trying to categorize people based on single posts?
- catshirt 9y agocome on. read between the lines. i'm saying that blocking websites is fascist behavior, not noble work. don't abuse your family's trust by imposing political censorship on them.
- kevinh 9y agoFake news sites (real fake news, not how Trump uses it) are malware for the mind. These are things that are 100% fictional and made up to deceive readers for clicks.
- catshirt 9y ago> "real fake news" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slippery_slope https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slippery_slope or (to play coy): you're suggesting we block fiction from the internet...?
- kevinh 9y agoFake news is a distinct category of story that is easily quantified. It is a real problem that the United States faces and if we don't attempt to combat it, discourse will suffer. Since you're a fan of Wikipedia articles, try reading this one: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fake_news_websites_in_the_United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fake_news_websites_in_the_Unit...
- catshirt 9y agook. read the whole article. and i understood you right off the bat just fine. you want to block fiction from the internet. specifically, political fiction. and to be really generous, more specifically, political fiction with a certain intent. now. who gets to arbitrate what is "political"? who gets to arbitrate what is "fiction"? who gets to arbitrate someone else's "intent"? Clinton? Trump? Bezos? Huffington? pick your poison. and i'll find half a country that disagrees with you. signed, a very confused liberal
- kevinh 9y agoI don't understand why you're treating this as a partisan issue. Fake news affects every political affiliation, and it isn't limited to political issues. I don't want incorrect information that agrees with my point of view any more than incorrect information that agrees with it. As for how they'd decide what websites to block or put a warning in front of, that seems fairly straightforward. Have a committee that represents different demographics, and require a unanimous vote to take action against a site.
- catshirt 9y agodude. i get it. you are only further articulating everything i have already accused you of. you want a company or government to decide what content gets blocked. that is what's partisan. remember this conversation when the guy you don't like gets control of that company or government. cheers mate. i mean well.
- hanklazard 9y agoYou’re conflating “fake news” and “political fiction.” The first is an attempt to mislead people about events that have happened, the latter is a story about the way events could happen. I’m not interested in arguing about whether objectivity is possible in news, just saying this distinction is important.
- catshirt 9y ago
- orf 9y agoNo, he is clearly not.
- catshirt 9y agohow substantial of you. your post may have been of some value if i didn't indicate i was being coy. alas, i was asking for elaboration on his opinion. not your canned response.
- pjc50 9y agoEven in America, there has always been certain material that was rendered unavilable by legal action. Usually the big hammer was reserved for child porn, but there have been other cases. Remember also that almost everyone selects their email provider precisely because they don't want to see everything - they want someone to take care of the spam for them. Popup blocking, ad blocking, and now it seems some sort of "clickbait"/"fake news"/"russian troll" blocking is going to be popular.
- eugeneionesco 9y agoOhh, people at Mozilla have always been pretty much openly fascists. Just look at the Eich story.
- sctb 9y agoWe've asked you many times not to post unsubstantive, inflammatory political comments, so we've banned the account. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- rgrieselhuber 9y agoI simply don't want the technology I use to be the arbiter of information. Teaching people to discern quality sources for themselves is far better IMO.
- makeee 9y agoThat seems to be exactly what Mozilla is doing no? Research and investing in tools that help people learn to navigate information online and judge for them self. Haven’t found anything that suggests they plan on blocking websites.
- rgrieselhuber 9y agoThanks, the link you posted clarifies that what they are doing at this point is "researching" ways to combat fake news. In practice, the solutions I could imagine them coming up with would be either outright blocking / de-ranking, or preemptively labeling certain sites / articles as fake news. I hope to be wrong on both of those counts.
- Manishearth 9y agoWhere does it say that Mozilla is going to do this? As it stands you're spreading FUD.