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VW and the German government are basically "cooperating" on everything [1] [2] [3]. It's extremely naive to think that VW will get a fair trail in Germany. [1]

by kome 9y ago

VW and the German government are basically "cooperating" on everything [1] [2] [3]. It's extremely naive to think that VW will get a fair trail in Germany. [1] https://qz.com/1045619/germanys-diesel-scandal-shines-a-light-on-how-indulgent-the-government-is-with-carmakers/ https://qz.com/1045619/germanys-diesel-scandal-shines-a-ligh... [2] http://www.climatechangenews.com/2017/09/05/lobbying-data-reveals-carmakers-influence-berlin/ http://www.climatechangenews.com/2017/09/05/lobbying-data-re... [3] https://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/02/world/europe/germany-volkswagen-autos-merkel.html https://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/02/world/europe/germany-volk...

Tomte 9y ago
The German government doesn't control the prosecution. Especially not because it's not a federal investigation. Criminal matters are state matters, with very few exceptions. And to counter your next try: No, the government of Lower Saxony does not control the prosecution either.
- kome 9y ago
  government doesn't control the prosecution but government makes the laws and regulations. that's enough. And government in Germany is super cozy [1] [2] with car makers. [1] https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/02/business/energy-environment/germany-diesel-car-emissions.html https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/02/business/energy-environme... [2] https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-07-18/germany-wrestles-with-diesel-s-future-as-large-cities-plan-bans https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-07-18/germany-w...
- germanier 9y ago
  Last time I checked the prosecution was bound by instructions (§ 147 GVG), in this case by the government of Lower Saxony. Of course there are some limits to this and I'm not saying anything like that happened here.
  - goldesel 9y ago
    Additional fun fact: The state of Lower Saxony owns 20% of Volkswagen AG (https://www.mf.niedersachsen.de/themen/beteiligungen/volkswagen-ag-wolfsburg-1590.html https://www.mf.niedersachsen.de/themen/beteiligungen/volkswa...)

by kome 9y ago

Tomte 9y ago

The German government doesn't control the prosecution. Especially not because it's not a federal investigation. Criminal matters are state matters, with very few exceptions. And to counter your next try: No, the government of Lower Saxony does not control the prosecution either.

kome 9y ago
government doesn't control the prosecution but government makes the laws and regulations. that's enough. And government in Germany is super cozy [1] [2] with car makers. [1] https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/02/business/energy-environment/germany-diesel-car-emissions.html https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/02/business/energy-environme... [2] https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-07-18/germany-wrestles-with-diesel-s-future-as-large-cities-plan-bans https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-07-18/germany-w...
germanier 9y ago
Last time I checked the prosecution was bound by instructions (§ 147 GVG), in this case by the government of Lower Saxony. Of course there are some limits to this and I'm not saying anything like that happened here.
- goldesel 9y ago
  Additional fun fact: The state of Lower Saxony owns 20% of Volkswagen AG (https://www.mf.niedersachsen.de/themen/beteiligungen/volkswagen-ag-wolfsburg-1590.html https://www.mf.niedersachsen.de/themen/beteiligungen/volkswa...)