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I got a bunch of emails from senators thanking me for contacting them this week... before I had contacted any of them. Who knows what was said in my name.

make3 9y ago
Thanks
- dang 9y ago
  Would you please stop posting unsubstantive comments to Hacker News?
erentz 9y ago
I got some too. In my case they were from battleforthenet.com. Maybe yours were too? I had signed up quite some time ago, so I was surprised to see these. I guess they only recently sent them or the senators only recently responded.
- xahrepap 9y ago
  Same. Came just last week for me.
benjaminjackman 9y ago
robots thanking robots
- pessimizer 9y ago
  web 2.0 -> web 3.0
avs733 9y ago
I would report that to them, report that to the Sergeant at Arms for the US Congress (because hey...that seems like a CFAA violation using their computer system), and your state attorney general. Being angry accomplishes nothing, being noisy accomplishes a little. being FUCKING ANNOYING and ever present accomplishes marginally but meaningfully more.
- cirgue 9y ago
  > being noisy accomplishes a little And a bunch of people being noisy accomplishes a surprising amount, if you can be noisy in the right channels.
  - pdkl95 9y ago
    Also, it's almost always important to be persistently noisy. A single noise event (or even a handful) can be - and often is - ignored. Silence is insidious because even after a very noisy scandal, silence eventually normalizes the status quo. The only way to counter this - and be seen as a real issue that needs to be addressed - is to be noisy in the right channels every time the problem happens, with the noise continuing until the problem is actually fixed. Protesting, letter writing, and political action in general is not a one time event. It's a force that needs to be continuously applied.
    - avs733 9y ago
      This is a much more articulate version of what I posted and should be taken very seriously. The reason citizen movements so often lose out is because they are able to gather momentum for a one time event, but they are fighting against group with paid staff (not a slight just a reality) who do this full time. They are there on the same message every day. I have worked with several activist groups that can't get the 'on message' part down and can't figure out how to apply it consistently and clearly. The same ideas about vision->strategy->tactics applies the same to activism as it does to a startup. It's the different between the grand canyon and a really big rainstorm.
    - cirgue 9y ago
      > letter writing Especially this: letters get way more notice than phone calls or online petitions. Many representatives actually read their letters. Phone calls typically get filtered through staff, and they generally don't communicate a whole lot to the rep unless the person calling is a significant player in their district. If you write a clear, concise letter explaining how an issue impacts you, your peers, and local/regional business, you will have a pretty solid shot at getting someone's attention.
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mc32 9y ago
Not sure of these people's analytics and or agenda if any, but apparently lots of comments were automated and or duplicates: http://www.emprata.com/reports/fcc-restoring-internet-freedom-docket/ http://www.emprata.com/reports/fcc-restoring-internet-freedo... I'd be interested in other people's opinions on their conclusions.

make3 9y ago

Thanks

dang 9y ago
Would you please stop posting unsubstantive comments to Hacker News?

erentz 9y ago

I got some too. In my case they were from battleforthenet.com. Maybe yours were too? I had signed up quite some time ago, so I was surprised to see these. I guess they only recently sent them or the senators only recently responded.

xahrepap 9y ago
Same. Came just last week for me.

benjaminjackman 9y ago

robots thanking robots

pessimizer 9y ago
web 2.0 -> web 3.0

avs733 9y ago

I would report that to them, report that to the Sergeant at Arms for the US Congress (because hey...that seems like a CFAA violation using their computer system), and your state attorney general. Being angry accomplishes nothing, being noisy accomplishes a little. being FUCKING ANNOYING and ever present accomplishes marginally but meaningfully more.

cirgue 9y ago
> being noisy accomplishes a little And a bunch of people being noisy accomplishes a surprising amount, if you can be noisy in the right channels.
- pdkl95 9y ago
  Also, it's almost always important to be persistently noisy. A single noise event (or even a handful) can be - and often is - ignored. Silence is insidious because even after a very noisy scandal, silence eventually normalizes the status quo. The only way to counter this - and be seen as a real issue that needs to be addressed - is to be noisy in the right channels every time the problem happens, with the noise continuing until the problem is actually fixed. Protesting, letter writing, and political action in general is not a one time event. It's a force that needs to be continuously applied.
  - avs733 9y ago
    This is a much more articulate version of what I posted and should be taken very seriously. The reason citizen movements so often lose out is because they are able to gather momentum for a one time event, but they are fighting against group with paid staff (not a slight just a reality) who do this full time. They are there on the same message every day. I have worked with several activist groups that can't get the 'on message' part down and can't figure out how to apply it consistently and clearly. The same ideas about vision->strategy->tactics applies the same to activism as it does to a startup. It's the different between the grand canyon and a really big rainstorm.
  - cirgue 9y ago
    > letter writing Especially this: letters get way more notice than phone calls or online petitions. Many representatives actually read their letters. Phone calls typically get filtered through staff, and they generally don't communicate a whole lot to the rep unless the person calling is a significant player in their district. If you write a clear, concise letter explaining how an issue impacts you, your peers, and local/regional business, you will have a pretty solid shot at getting someone's attention.

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mc32 9y ago

Not sure of these people's analytics and or agenda if any, but apparently lots of comments were automated and or duplicates: http://www.emprata.com/reports/fcc-restoring-internet-freedom-docket/ http://www.emprata.com/reports/fcc-restoring-internet-freedo... I'd be interested in other people's opinions on their conclusions.