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I think they should show some courage and make a Pro quality laptop again - one that doesn’t require dongles. Make it thicker, maybe even make it black. Develop

I think they should show some courage and make a Pro quality laptop again - one that doesn’t require dongles. Make it thicker, maybe even make it black. Developers don’t want the thinnest, we want the best. It’s probably never gonna happen because they are a mobile device company now and that is where the money is.

Clubber 9y ago
I think that's the problem, developers have different tastes. If I wanted a monster, I would get a Lenovo P71 with a Xeon at almost 8 pounds, or something like it. I like the 17 MBP for the most part, except the arrow keys and the size of the track pad (too big, I keep palming it). I like it better than the 13 I had before it.
spronkey 9y ago
This. Make it upgradable. RAM and multiple M.2 please. And make it shut the hell up, or let me offload compute to something that has big fans.
- eitland 9y ago
  > or let me offload compute to something that has big fans. This one puzzles me. Back when I used a MacBook the fact that it was mostly silent was one of the biggest advantages. Also, somewhat honestly: I don’t see any reason why Mac users can't offload to AWS, Azure or Google Cloud?
  - kylec 9y ago
    You're both in agreement - bigger fans are quieter fans
  - spronkey 9y ago
    What kind of MacBook did you use, and did you plug it in to an external display? My 2013 15" MacBook Pro is extremely loud when plugged in to one or more external displays. Seems to be related to the fact that its fans are either off, or at 100%. Or at least have a very late, aggressive curve. It's also very loud when the CPU is constantly pegged at 20% or more, which is basically a given when running Xcode. I can offload some things to the cloud, but I can't offload my UI and local apps, which are the things that cause the really loud noise. When it's under a light load, it's very quiet - moreso than most non-Apple machines I've used. But under heavy load, a number of other machines seem to be much better at expelling their heat without sounding like a jet engine.
chrisbennet 9y ago
The reason I mention making it thicker was because I was under the impression that “too thin” was the reason the number and size of ports was compromised. It doesn’t need to be a monster, the previous generation MBP wasn’t.
Girlang 9y ago
Developers don’t use Macs. Mac users love the touch bar because all the typical MC user does is swipe left and right on Grindr all day long.

Clubber 9y ago

I think that's the problem, developers have different tastes. If I wanted a monster, I would get a Lenovo P71 with a Xeon at almost 8 pounds, or something like it. I like the 17 MBP for the most part, except the arrow keys and the size of the track pad (too big, I keep palming it). I like it better than the 13 I had before it.

spronkey 9y ago

This. Make it upgradable. RAM and multiple M.2 please. And make it shut the hell up, or let me offload compute to something that has big fans.

eitland 9y ago
> or let me offload compute to something that has big fans. This one puzzles me. Back when I used a MacBook the fact that it was mostly silent was one of the biggest advantages. Also, somewhat honestly: I don’t see any reason why Mac users can't offload to AWS, Azure or Google Cloud?
- kylec 9y ago
  You're both in agreement - bigger fans are quieter fans
- spronkey 9y ago
  What kind of MacBook did you use, and did you plug it in to an external display? My 2013 15" MacBook Pro is extremely loud when plugged in to one or more external displays. Seems to be related to the fact that its fans are either off, or at 100%. Or at least have a very late, aggressive curve. It's also very loud when the CPU is constantly pegged at 20% or more, which is basically a given when running Xcode. I can offload some things to the cloud, but I can't offload my UI and local apps, which are the things that cause the really loud noise. When it's under a light load, it's very quiet - moreso than most non-Apple machines I've used. But under heavy load, a number of other machines seem to be much better at expelling their heat without sounding like a jet engine.

chrisbennet 9y ago

The reason I mention making it thicker was because I was under the impression that “too thin” was the reason the number and size of ports was compromised. It doesn’t need to be a monster, the previous generation MBP wasn’t.

Girlang 9y ago

Developers don’t use Macs. Mac users love the touch bar because all the typical MC user does is swipe left and right on Grindr all day long.