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Money is of no importance here, since it doesn't make any meaningful percentage of my earnings. From any angle it is no profit pet project of mine. On the othe

Money is of no importance here, since it doesn't make any meaningful percentage of my earnings. From any angle it is no profit pet project of mine. On the other hand number of 'thank you' emails, from real people all over the world, greatly compensates for development hours. Mechanics is very different from what you imagine it to be, placebo being only small part of the entire process. However it is very tiresome to explain it to somebody who is righteous about topic he doesn't know much about.

cardmagic 9y ago
Sure... and it's also so advanced that even double-blind researchers can't reproduce it. I'm sorry that asking for rigorous science sounds like being righteous to you. I am not taking anybody's hard earned money with empty promises. You are. If money’s not the issue, then stop charging people and give back the money you have received. That will prove to me that money’s not the issue.
- binaryapparatus 9y ago
  > Sure... and it's also so advanced that even double-blind researchers can't reproduce it. I have no idea who and how performed studies, so it is not impossible to imagine if you don't really understand the process you can't use the tools properly and results will be questionable. I did research the topic probably ten or more years before I dared to write an app. At least 60% of the success is depending on how you phrase the message, so if it is not respecting mechanic you can flash messages all day long with no results. There is also _a lot_ depending on how you present the message -- if you are curious you can download app trial and check settings. Don't use the app, just see what options are there. > I'm sorry that asking for rigorous science sounds like being righteous to you. Righteous as in "church claims earth is flat, this guy disagrees, let's burn him". It is perfectly fine if you expect official dogma to tell you if something produces results -- please wait for that then. Out of curiosity, you _are_ aware that all major players use subliminal messages in their commercials? Or not? If you know about that, why would they use them that way if there is no effect? If you don't know about that why we discuss the topic then? > I am not taking anybody's hard earned money with empty promises. You are. You really have no idea if they are empty, right?
  - cardmagic 9y ago
    You ask that as if the burden of proof is on me. I’m not charging anyone for this hogwash, the burden of proof is on you. Other people selling snake oil too doesn’t make it any more effective. I can walk into any grocery store in the USA and find pure distilled water being marketed as homeopathic. That’s not proof that homeopathy has any effect more than placebo. I’m 100% sure that every snake oil salesman in history had an endless supply of testimonials and thankful words. They also didn’t stop charging for their snake oil, and it seems like you aren’t going to stop either. Seems like you’re talking out of both sides of your mouth too... this is from your website: “Constantly on Top 100 Grossing Lifestyle apps list in US Mac App Store since 2011” So which is it? You make almost nothing or you are one of the highest grossing apps in the App Store? Please. I don’t believe a single word you say either way. If your moral framework allows you to profit off of gullibility, then anything you say is suspect.
    - binaryapparatus 9y ago
      > Seems like you’re talking out of both sides of your mouth too... this is from your website: “Constantly on Top 100 Grossing Lifestyle apps list in US Mac App Store since 2011” It takes very few copies per month to reach MAS top lists, please google it if you don't know that, especially in less crowded 'lifestyle' category. I never said in the entire app store, I said in lifestyle category. So both claims are true but you are too blinded with rushing to prove 'other guy being wrong'. Being both constantly on top grossing lifestyle list and making almost no money is topic on its own, but the fact doesn't make any of those two claims less true. Great majority of the Subliminal user base was reached trough https://stacksocial.com/sales/the-mac-freebie-bundle-4-0 https://stacksocial.com/sales/the-mac-freebie-bundle-4-0 several years ago. As you can see it was free bundle. StackSocial did 'pay' for all the free copies, it was mutual promotional move, with earnings of exactly whooping 1.3 cents per copy. Even paying customers never had to pay for any update, so far it was always one-time payment (if not free), since 2011. When you mention money as motivational factor it looks really funny on this side. > hogwash, snake oil, both sides of your mouth, I don't believe a single word you say, profit off gullibility... That's pretty strong wording to cover ignorance. You did first choose what to believe in, then put an effort to make it sound true? I am now really curious to hear (at least short or yes/no) answers to the part you skipped: "Out of curiosity, you _are_ aware that all major players use subliminal messages in their commercials? Or not? If you know about that, why would they use them that way if there is no effect? If you don't know about that why we discuss the topic then?"

cardmagic 9y ago

Sure... and it's also so advanced that even double-blind researchers can't reproduce it. I'm sorry that asking for rigorous science sounds like being righteous to you. I am not taking anybody's hard earned money with empty promises. You are. If money’s not the issue, then stop charging people and give back the money you have received. That will prove to me that money’s not the issue.

binaryapparatus 9y ago
> Sure... and it's also so advanced that even double-blind researchers can't reproduce it. I have no idea who and how performed studies, so it is not impossible to imagine if you don't really understand the process you can't use the tools properly and results will be questionable. I did research the topic probably ten or more years before I dared to write an app. At least 60% of the success is depending on how you phrase the message, so if it is not respecting mechanic you can flash messages all day long with no results. There is also _a lot_ depending on how you present the message -- if you are curious you can download app trial and check settings. Don't use the app, just see what options are there. > I'm sorry that asking for rigorous science sounds like being righteous to you. Righteous as in "church claims earth is flat, this guy disagrees, let's burn him". It is perfectly fine if you expect official dogma to tell you if something produces results -- please wait for that then. Out of curiosity, you _are_ aware that all major players use subliminal messages in their commercials? Or not? If you know about that, why would they use them that way if there is no effect? If you don't know about that why we discuss the topic then? > I am not taking anybody's hard earned money with empty promises. You are. You really have no idea if they are empty, right?
- cardmagic 9y ago
  You ask that as if the burden of proof is on me. I’m not charging anyone for this hogwash, the burden of proof is on you. Other people selling snake oil too doesn’t make it any more effective. I can walk into any grocery store in the USA and find pure distilled water being marketed as homeopathic. That’s not proof that homeopathy has any effect more than placebo. I’m 100% sure that every snake oil salesman in history had an endless supply of testimonials and thankful words. They also didn’t stop charging for their snake oil, and it seems like you aren’t going to stop either. Seems like you’re talking out of both sides of your mouth too... this is from your website: “Constantly on Top 100 Grossing Lifestyle apps list in US Mac App Store since 2011” So which is it? You make almost nothing or you are one of the highest grossing apps in the App Store? Please. I don’t believe a single word you say either way. If your moral framework allows you to profit off of gullibility, then anything you say is suspect.
  - binaryapparatus 9y ago
    > Seems like you’re talking out of both sides of your mouth too... this is from your website: “Constantly on Top 100 Grossing Lifestyle apps list in US Mac App Store since 2011” It takes very few copies per month to reach MAS top lists, please google it if you don't know that, especially in less crowded 'lifestyle' category. I never said in the entire app store, I said in lifestyle category. So both claims are true but you are too blinded with rushing to prove 'other guy being wrong'. Being both constantly on top grossing lifestyle list and making almost no money is topic on its own, but the fact doesn't make any of those two claims less true. Great majority of the Subliminal user base was reached trough https://stacksocial.com/sales/the-mac-freebie-bundle-4-0 https://stacksocial.com/sales/the-mac-freebie-bundle-4-0 several years ago. As you can see it was free bundle. StackSocial did 'pay' for all the free copies, it was mutual promotional move, with earnings of exactly whooping 1.3 cents per copy. Even paying customers never had to pay for any update, so far it was always one-time payment (if not free), since 2011. When you mention money as motivational factor it looks really funny on this side. > hogwash, snake oil, both sides of your mouth, I don't believe a single word you say, profit off gullibility... That's pretty strong wording to cover ignorance. You did first choose what to believe in, then put an effort to make it sound true? I am now really curious to hear (at least short or yes/no) answers to the part you skipped: "Out of curiosity, you _are_ aware that all major players use subliminal messages in their commercials? Or not? If you know about that, why would they use them that way if there is no effect? If you don't know about that why we discuss the topic then?"