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Eh, at least one test seemed to show that there wasn't a noticeable difference: http://www.seriouseats.com/2010/08/what-are-the-best-eggs-cage-free-organic-omeg

Eh, at least one test seemed to show that there wasn't a noticeable difference: http://www.seriouseats.com/2010/08/what-are-the-best-eggs-cage-free-organic-omega-3s-grocery-store-brand-the-food-lab.html http://www.seriouseats.com/2010/08/what-are-the-best-eggs-ca...

jeffdavis 9y ago
I can taste the difference.
- adrianN 9y ago
  Did you do a double blind study?
  - nitrogen 9y ago
    You don't have to blind a study when the effect size is big enough (the classic example is the ridiculousness of a double-blind test of the use of parachutes). See my other comment for how easily egg flavor can be altered.
    - slavik81 9y ago
      He's right to be distrustful. People are terrible at taste tests. If you ask people how something tastes, they will tend to tell you what they think they're expected to taste rather than what they actually do. There's plenty of scientific evidence for this based on wine studies[1], but on a personal level, the tongue map myth[2] is the one that gets me. It was taught in science class as true, and we did (non-blind) experiments to measure the effect, but we failed to conclude the effect didn't exist. [1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blind_wine_tasting https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blind_wine_tasting [2] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tongue_map https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tongue_map
      - nitrogen 9y ago
        People are terrible at taste tests. True, but after being served backyard vs. store eggs without being told which is which, or which feed type was in use, or that anything had changed at all, and still noticing a difference, I am confident that it is possible for the flavor of eggs to vary.
nitrogen 9y ago
There is a huge difference in taste between different types of chicken feed. The same chicken will produce thick, dark orange, bitter yolks with one type and lighter yolks with another, in both cases free to roam and eat bugs and grass. So any taste test that doesn't find a difference between eggs isn't testing the right eggs.
Nomentatus 9y ago
There's a massive difference in taste, and an objective measure that correlates well with this - namely, the thickness of the collagen sheath just underneath the shell (eggs being single cells.) It's an excellent correlate of the overall health and nutritional value of the egg. If the egg can't even protect itself from breakage well, the rest of the egg isn't ideal, either.
- why15characters 9y ago
  >There's a massive difference in taste You feel that way, but all evidence says otherwise. >and an objective measure that correlates well with this - namely, the thickness of the collagen sheath just underneath the shell Measuring that is objective, but there is no evidence it correlates with taste at all. >(eggs being single cells.) I honestly don't know how to say this nicely. You expect people to take your pseudo-scientific nonsense seriously when posting things like this that clearly show you don't know the most basic facts on the subject? A bird egg is not a single cell. The ovum is a single cell, and is a tiny spec on the surface of the yolk. The yolk, the white and the membranes are all not part of the single cell ovum. >It's an excellent correlate of the overall health and nutritional value of the egg. Show us the evidence. That is an easily proven objective claim, so where's the evidence?
  - kazinator 9y ago
    > The yolk, the white and the membranes are all not part of the single cell ovum. Do these contribute additional cells to the egg that must be counted?
    - why15characters 9y ago
      No, the egg yolk is food for the embryo. It is the equivalent of the placenta in a mammal. An egg only contains a single cell (unless there's a blood clot in it), but contains a single cell is very different from is a single cell.
    - daramantus 9y ago
      "Another person's consciousness is inaccessible because it's in a different universe. Only the matter part of that is projected in your universe, not the actual identity. Without a hypothesis like this, we are left with postulating hidden variables: some hidden context pointer which resolves to you or me or such." huh? please tell me this stupid shit was an analogy

jeffdavis 9y ago

I can taste the difference.

adrianN 9y ago
Did you do a double blind study?
- nitrogen 9y ago
  You don't have to blind a study when the effect size is big enough (the classic example is the ridiculousness of a double-blind test of the use of parachutes). See my other comment for how easily egg flavor can be altered.
  - slavik81 9y ago
    He's right to be distrustful. People are terrible at taste tests. If you ask people how something tastes, they will tend to tell you what they think they're expected to taste rather than what they actually do. There's plenty of scientific evidence for this based on wine studies[1], but on a personal level, the tongue map myth[2] is the one that gets me. It was taught in science class as true, and we did (non-blind) experiments to measure the effect, but we failed to conclude the effect didn't exist. [1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blind_wine_tasting https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blind_wine_tasting [2] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tongue_map https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tongue_map
    - nitrogen 9y ago
      People are terrible at taste tests. True, but after being served backyard vs. store eggs without being told which is which, or which feed type was in use, or that anything had changed at all, and still noticing a difference, I am confident that it is possible for the flavor of eggs to vary.

nitrogen 9y ago

There is a huge difference in taste between different types of chicken feed. The same chicken will produce thick, dark orange, bitter yolks with one type and lighter yolks with another, in both cases free to roam and eat bugs and grass. So any taste test that doesn't find a difference between eggs isn't testing the right eggs.

Nomentatus 9y ago

There's a massive difference in taste, and an objective measure that correlates well with this - namely, the thickness of the collagen sheath just underneath the shell (eggs being single cells.) It's an excellent correlate of the overall health and nutritional value of the egg. If the egg can't even protect itself from breakage well, the rest of the egg isn't ideal, either.

why15characters 9y ago
>There's a massive difference in taste You feel that way, but all evidence says otherwise. >and an objective measure that correlates well with this - namely, the thickness of the collagen sheath just underneath the shell Measuring that is objective, but there is no evidence it correlates with taste at all. >(eggs being single cells.) I honestly don't know how to say this nicely. You expect people to take your pseudo-scientific nonsense seriously when posting things like this that clearly show you don't know the most basic facts on the subject? A bird egg is not a single cell. The ovum is a single cell, and is a tiny spec on the surface of the yolk. The yolk, the white and the membranes are all not part of the single cell ovum. >It's an excellent correlate of the overall health and nutritional value of the egg. Show us the evidence. That is an easily proven objective claim, so where's the evidence?
- kazinator 9y ago
  > The yolk, the white and the membranes are all not part of the single cell ovum. Do these contribute additional cells to the egg that must be counted?
  - why15characters 9y ago
    No, the egg yolk is food for the embryo. It is the equivalent of the placenta in a mammal. An egg only contains a single cell (unless there's a blood clot in it), but contains a single cell is very different from is a single cell.
  - daramantus 9y ago
    "Another person's consciousness is inaccessible because it's in a different universe. Only the matter part of that is projected in your universe, not the actual identity. Without a hypothesis like this, we are left with postulating hidden variables: some hidden context pointer which resolves to you or me or such." huh? please tell me this stupid shit was an analogy