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Nothing but negative comments here. Longtime FF user but I gotta say the new version is great. MUCH faster than the old version or Chrome. Great work Mozilla

Nothing but negative comments here. Longtime FF user but I gotta say the new version is great. MUCH faster than the old version or Chrome. Great work Mozilla. Feck the begruders!

maltalex 9y ago
You're missing the point. The negative comments are about the market share. No one is saying anything negative about Firefox or Mozilla.
- fasquoika 9y ago
  The comment literally directly below this one is about how awful new Firefox is for breaking their add-ons...
betterunix2 9y ago
Yeah, nothing like waking up one day and discovering that my add-ons have all been disabled...
- KozmoNau7 9y ago
  All of them? Really?
  - betterunix2 9y ago
    Yes, really. Why should that surprise you? The majority of XUL extensions had not been ported to WebExtensions when Mozilla pushed this update and Mozilla was well aware of that fact. This was executed poorly and Mozilla deserves to be criticized for it.
    - LocutusOfBorges 9y ago
      Mozilla gave extension authors multiple years of notice. I don't see what else they could have done, realistically speaking.
      - thinkingemote 9y ago
        XUL extensions e.g. the user interface could not be ported, the notice they were given was "this will stop your extension working" with users being given the advice from advocates "don't worry we'll build some replacement APIs sometime soon..."
      - tempestn 9y ago
        There were years of notice, but no infrastructure to support addons migrating to WebExtensions. They're still working on the supporting APIs now, after throwing the switch. What would have made more sense would be to bring in support for WebExtensions and all APIs necessary to replicate popular addons first, give them enough time to migrate, and then disable legacy extensions. Technically yes, there is the ESR version available until April, but the vast majority of regular users aren't going to know about that.
    - KozmoNau7 9y ago
      The majority? No, far from it. By far the vast majority of popular extensions were ported well in advance, NoScript[1] was a notable exception, but even Tree Style Tabs is available now. [1] I've found uBlock Origin in dynamic mode to be superior to NoScript, anyway.
      - gnicholas 9y ago
        TST is available, but in its default state it has tabs listed across the top and also down the side. You have to edit some other file manually in order to hide the tabs from appearing at the top. TST tells users about this but also disclaims the possibility that following the instructions to do so may break things. This is not exactly a smooth transition.
    - nol13 9y ago
      All major functionality except tab groups restored here, but that should be coming. Think that covers all of the most important extensions. Had to map my 'music' key to run a script that hides the title bar in gtk3, but works for now.
      - andrewaylett 9y ago
        I use https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/723/pixel-saver/ https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/723/pixel-saver/ to hide the title bar for all full-screen windows in Gnome.
        nol13 9y ago
        Right on, was using hide the title bar[0] add-on which gives you a script to install, and then it runs the script on window creation, but need the keymap since it comes back after every window resize. Just need to edit the extension to run on resize really, if possible. 0: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/hide-the-titlebar/ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/hide-the-titl...
TAForObvReasons 9y ago
The question isn't whether the new Firefox is better than older versions, but rather whether they can regain any serious market share. And for that to happen, it won't be enough for Firefox to be comparable or even slightly better than Chrome.

Nothing but negative comments here. Longtime FF user but I gotta say the new version is great. MUCH faster than the old version or Chrome. Great work Mozilla. Feck the begruders!

maltalex 9y ago

You're missing the point. The negative comments are about the market share. No one is saying anything negative about Firefox or Mozilla.

fasquoika 9y ago
The comment literally directly below this one is about how awful new Firefox is for breaking their add-ons...

betterunix2 9y ago

Yeah, nothing like waking up one day and discovering that my add-ons have all been disabled...

KozmoNau7 9y ago
All of them? Really?
- betterunix2 9y ago
  Yes, really. Why should that surprise you? The majority of XUL extensions had not been ported to WebExtensions when Mozilla pushed this update and Mozilla was well aware of that fact. This was executed poorly and Mozilla deserves to be criticized for it.
  - LocutusOfBorges 9y ago
    Mozilla gave extension authors multiple years of notice. I don't see what else they could have done, realistically speaking.
    - thinkingemote 9y ago
      XUL extensions e.g. the user interface could not be ported, the notice they were given was "this will stop your extension working" with users being given the advice from advocates "don't worry we'll build some replacement APIs sometime soon..."
    - tempestn 9y ago
      There were years of notice, but no infrastructure to support addons migrating to WebExtensions. They're still working on the supporting APIs now, after throwing the switch. What would have made more sense would be to bring in support for WebExtensions and all APIs necessary to replicate popular addons first, give them enough time to migrate, and then disable legacy extensions. Technically yes, there is the ESR version available until April, but the vast majority of regular users aren't going to know about that.
  - KozmoNau7 9y ago
    The majority? No, far from it. By far the vast majority of popular extensions were ported well in advance, NoScript[1] was a notable exception, but even Tree Style Tabs is available now. [1] I've found uBlock Origin in dynamic mode to be superior to NoScript, anyway.
    - gnicholas 9y ago
      TST is available, but in its default state it has tabs listed across the top and also down the side. You have to edit some other file manually in order to hide the tabs from appearing at the top. TST tells users about this but also disclaims the possibility that following the instructions to do so may break things. This is not exactly a smooth transition.
  - nol13 9y ago
    All major functionality except tab groups restored here, but that should be coming. Think that covers all of the most important extensions. Had to map my 'music' key to run a script that hides the title bar in gtk3, but works for now.
    - andrewaylett 9y ago
      I use https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/723/pixel-saver/ https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/723/pixel-saver/ to hide the title bar for all full-screen windows in Gnome.
      - nol13 9y ago
        Right on, was using hide the title bar[0] add-on which gives you a script to install, and then it runs the script on window creation, but need the keymap since it comes back after every window resize. Just need to edit the extension to run on resize really, if possible. 0: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/hide-the-titlebar/ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/hide-the-titl...

TAForObvReasons 9y ago

The question isn't whether the new Firefox is better than older versions, but rather whether they can regain any serious market share. And for that to happen, it won't be enough for Firefox to be comparable or even slightly better than Chrome.