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Your criteria are unclear, what counts as real life footage? Captured bdrf? Photographic textures? Photogrammetry? Motion capture? Made by an artist equipped wi

Your criteria are unclear, what counts as real life footage? Captured bdrf? Photographic textures? Photogrammetry? Motion capture? Made by an artist equipped with lots of reference?

sillysaurus3 9y ago
Captured by a video camera. But, those are all examples of why photorealistic CG is fiction. We've never achieved it in video.
- leohutson 9y ago
  I guess my thoughts are, why would you? The only time you would use VFX is if you can't do something in real life cheaper, and since it's extremely expensive that rules out filing the frame with mundane realistic objects. Aside from time and budget, art direction and production design often rules out a photorealistic look anyway, even if technology allows it. I'd like to dig further into what you mean by photorealistic CG being fiction? There are still tricky areas that are actively being researched, but I've seen plenty of CG assets that are photorealistic. What do you think is technically missing from CG video, that makes it lack realism?
  - sillysaurus3 9y ago
    https://hn.algolia.com/?query=author:sillysaurus3%20CG&sort=byDate&prefix&page=0&dateRange=all&type=comment https://hn.algolia.com/?query=author:sillysaurus3%20CG&sort=... https://hn.algolia.com/?query=author:sillysaurus3%20%22real%22&sort=byDate&prefix&page=0&dateRange=all&type=comment https://hn.algolia.com/?query=author:sillysaurus3%20%22real%... To answer your question precisely: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15294721 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15294721 I'd love to debate this with you, but few people seem interested. Here's the criteria for "CG video": https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15698859 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15698859 If you approach the subject with an open mind, you'll find that we really haven't achieved those goals. But the most I've managed to wring from people is a grudging admission that even though we haven't done it yet, we could do it if we tried. I disagree.

Your criteria are unclear, what counts as real life footage? Captured bdrf? Photographic textures? Photogrammetry? Motion capture? Made by an artist equipped with lots of reference?

sillysaurus3 9y ago

Captured by a video camera. But, those are all examples of why photorealistic CG is fiction. We've never achieved it in video.

leohutson 9y ago
I guess my thoughts are, why would you? The only time you would use VFX is if you can't do something in real life cheaper, and since it's extremely expensive that rules out filing the frame with mundane realistic objects. Aside from time and budget, art direction and production design often rules out a photorealistic look anyway, even if technology allows it. I'd like to dig further into what you mean by photorealistic CG being fiction? There are still tricky areas that are actively being researched, but I've seen plenty of CG assets that are photorealistic. What do you think is technically missing from CG video, that makes it lack realism?
- sillysaurus3 9y ago
  https://hn.algolia.com/?query=author:sillysaurus3%20CG&sort=byDate&prefix&page=0&dateRange=all&type=comment https://hn.algolia.com/?query=author:sillysaurus3%20CG&sort=... https://hn.algolia.com/?query=author:sillysaurus3%20%22real%22&sort=byDate&prefix&page=0&dateRange=all&type=comment https://hn.algolia.com/?query=author:sillysaurus3%20%22real%... To answer your question precisely: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15294721 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15294721 I'd love to debate this with you, but few people seem interested. Here's the criteria for "CG video": https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15698859 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15698859 If you approach the subject with an open mind, you'll find that we really haven't achieved those goals. But the most I've managed to wring from people is a grudging admission that even though we haven't done it yet, we could do it if we tried. I disagree.