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I will try a summary translation for you (I can't claim to be perfect, it is more union-speak than Italian :-) ): The issues that the unions are complaining ab

I will try a summary translation for you (I can't claim to be perfect, it is more union-speak than Italian :-) ): The issues that the unions are complaining about are: * Need for increased wages: the current wages follow the minimum required by the CCNL (national collective contract)[], but working condition are worse than usual: pauseless working shifts, higher productivity required, night shifts spread all year long with 6 days working week in during high peak perios (e.g. Christmas). No productivity bonuses for event such as Christmas or Black Friday. * No ability to balance work life and personal life. The unions say that they are going on strike since for more that one years they have tried to address those issues with Amazon but the latter always delayed any kind of action. [*] CCNL is a contract that is agreed between unions and employers at the national level to guarantee a baseline for all employees in a given sector.

azernik 9y ago
So basically, they're saying Amazon is straight up lying about their wages being the highest in the sector.
- mrighele 9y ago
  According to a link that someone else posted [1] (Sorry but it's in Italian), they get about 1200 EUR/month (this is net income after taxes, compulsory health insurance and retirement fees). I guess that Amazon is applying the national contract for the commerce sector [2] (PDF, this too in Italian) and the amount is supposed to be about 1250 EUR (you should consider the lower amount, which is what probably applies to a regular warehouse worker with little experience and no management responsability). So from what I understand, the union is right in stating that Amazon's pay is not above the national contract. Keep in mind that there are a number of tricks that can be used in order not the pay the official amount. For example, if you are hired as an apprentice the pay is lower. You can not be apprentice for more than 3 years, but the system can be abused, especially if the turnover is quite high. So in a way Amazon also is right when it says that it pays above average. But in my opinion the salary is not the main issue, if what is said about the working conditions is true (not only in Italy, but also Germany and the US), those should be fixed because I think they are not healthy. [1] http://www.lastampa.it/2017/03/14/edizioni/vercelli/qui-ad-amazon-tre-turni-e-uno-stipendio-da-euro-SRZaDy0KStuNc7C9LEnlbI/pagina.html http://www.lastampa.it/2017/03/14/edizioni/vercelli/qui-ad-a... [2] https://www.cifaitalia.it/index.php?option=com_attachments&task=download&id=4 https://www.cifaitalia.it/index.php?option=com_attachments&t...
  - Kiro 9y ago
    Why do they measure it by net income? Is everyone paying the same taxes in Italy? In my country you measure everything by gross income.

azernik 9y ago

So basically, they're saying Amazon is straight up lying about their wages being the highest in the sector.

mrighele 9y ago
According to a link that someone else posted [1] (Sorry but it's in Italian), they get about 1200 EUR/month (this is net income after taxes, compulsory health insurance and retirement fees). I guess that Amazon is applying the national contract for the commerce sector [2] (PDF, this too in Italian) and the amount is supposed to be about 1250 EUR (you should consider the lower amount, which is what probably applies to a regular warehouse worker with little experience and no management responsability). So from what I understand, the union is right in stating that Amazon's pay is not above the national contract. Keep in mind that there are a number of tricks that can be used in order not the pay the official amount. For example, if you are hired as an apprentice the pay is lower. You can not be apprentice for more than 3 years, but the system can be abused, especially if the turnover is quite high. So in a way Amazon also is right when it says that it pays above average. But in my opinion the salary is not the main issue, if what is said about the working conditions is true (not only in Italy, but also Germany and the US), those should be fixed because I think they are not healthy. [1] http://www.lastampa.it/2017/03/14/edizioni/vercelli/qui-ad-amazon-tre-turni-e-uno-stipendio-da-euro-SRZaDy0KStuNc7C9LEnlbI/pagina.html http://www.lastampa.it/2017/03/14/edizioni/vercelli/qui-ad-a... [2] https://www.cifaitalia.it/index.php?option=com_attachments&task=download&id=4 https://www.cifaitalia.it/index.php?option=com_attachments&t...
- Kiro 9y ago
  Why do they measure it by net income? Is everyone paying the same taxes in Italy? In my country you measure everything by gross income.