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Bad move. If this works it will show that preferential treatment is already possible, thus making the existing net neutrality meaningless.

nerdponx 9y ago
You'd think Cloudflare would have learned from the Stormfront incident
- eeks 9y ago
  My sentiment exactly.
- dleslie 9y ago
  How'd that resolve for them?
  - JshWright 9y ago
    The only net change is that there are fewer Nazis claiming Cloudflare supports them...
- bogomipz 9y ago
  Indeed, somehow not surprising though.
- SauciestGNU 9y ago
  What should they have learned? At the end of the day they kicked Nazis off their platform, and they're as successful as ever but have gained some extra credibility for not being complicit in Nazism.
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tankenmate 9y ago
Actually I think Prince's point is to do it _after/if_ it is passed. The issue isn't that it is possible today (all techies already know this), the issue is that after this you'll have to no legal recourse to equitable treatment once this is passed.
- rootlocus 9y ago
  > Actually I think Prince's point is to do it _after/if_ it is passed. No, it isn't. His next tweet reads "sent note to our GC to see if we can without breaking any laws.". But even so, I still think it's a joke.
pyvpx 9y ago
tuning buffers has been possible since the dawn of the internet. the point is selectively doing it in an exclusionary manner.
emidln 9y ago
Preferential treatment being possible has nothing to do with it. The only reason random ISPs don't offer restricted packages of sites/services now is that they are forbidden to do so by an FCC ruling. It is not technically complicated, but it is illegal.
Bud 9y ago
No: we already know it's possible. The point is that the FCC is supposed to step in and stop it. But now under Ajit Pai, we don't have an FCC anymore—at least not as previously understood. Therefore, it's a great move, as it illustrates the dangers that we will face if Ajit Pai gets away with this.
vidarh 9y ago
Robbery is possible. That doesn't mean laws against it are meaningless.

nerdponx 9y ago

You'd think Cloudflare would have learned from the Stormfront incident

eeks 9y ago
My sentiment exactly.
dleslie 9y ago
How'd that resolve for them?
- JshWright 9y ago
  The only net change is that there are fewer Nazis claiming Cloudflare supports them...
bogomipz 9y ago
Indeed, somehow not surprising though.
SauciestGNU 9y ago
What should they have learned? At the end of the day they kicked Nazis off their platform, and they're as successful as ever but have gained some extra credibility for not being complicit in Nazism.

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tankenmate 9y ago

Actually I think Prince's point is to do it _after/if_ it is passed. The issue isn't that it is possible today (all techies already know this), the issue is that after this you'll have to no legal recourse to equitable treatment once this is passed.

rootlocus 9y ago
> Actually I think Prince's point is to do it _after/if_ it is passed. No, it isn't. His next tweet reads "sent note to our GC to see if we can without breaking any laws.". But even so, I still think it's a joke.

pyvpx 9y ago

tuning buffers has been possible since the dawn of the internet. the point is selectively doing it in an exclusionary manner.

emidln 9y ago

Preferential treatment being possible has nothing to do with it. The only reason random ISPs don't offer restricted packages of sites/services now is that they are forbidden to do so by an FCC ruling. It is not technically complicated, but it is illegal.

Bud 9y ago

No: we already know it's possible. The point is that the FCC is supposed to step in and stop it. But now under Ajit Pai, we don't have an FCC anymore—at least not as previously understood. Therefore, it's a great move, as it illustrates the dangers that we will face if Ajit Pai gets away with this.

vidarh 9y ago

Robbery is possible. That doesn't mean laws against it are meaningless.