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Rather than "build our own" we should take back what used to belongs to us in the first place. They say there's a shortage of qualified I.T. people. If you wor

Rather than "build our own" we should take back what used to belongs to us in the first place. They say there's a shortage of qualified I.T. people. If you work for telecoms who support a non-neutral internet, then quit. Go on strike. Work only for companies who support Net Neutrality. Kill the enemy using free market capitalism.

Ygg2 9y ago
> If you work for telecoms who support a non-neutral internet, then quit. Go on strike. For shame Peter! That's class warfare.
jcadam 9y ago
> They say there's a shortage of qualified I.T. people. Whoever told you that is lying to you.
- featherverse 9y ago
  > Whoever told you that is lying to you. No. The key word in the statement is "qualified". The marketplace is flooded with unqualified candidates with 4 year degrees. Capability in the tech industry can't be taught in 4 years. It's a life-long passion. And those people are extremely rare. This is why you keep seeing preventable security breaches in giant corporations. They can't find competent employees.
em3rgent0rdr 9y ago
> "take back what used to belongs to us in the first place" Could you elaborate about how we used to be the owners of the ISPs? Are you referring to the use of eminent domain laws to lay cable?
- droidist2 9y ago
  I think they mean the internet in general, built originally by the US government.
  - em3rgent0rdr 9y ago
    ARPANET infrastructure became redundant and obsolete after private entites made better and faster backbone links, and so was decommissioned in 1990.
- featherverse 9y ago
  Happily. The first ISPs were small BBSes operated by single SysOps, scattered across all the towns in America. There were a few corporate exceptions like CompuServ but the majority of the original consumer internet was completely owned and controlled by regular people with a passion for the technology.
awalton 9y ago
> If you work for telecoms who support a non-neutral internet, then quit. Go on strike. Work only for companies who support Net Neutrality. ...you'll probably starve to death, though. Even with the immense shortage of technicians, there's also an immense shortage of ISPs that give a damn about Net Neutrality and are willing and/or able to give people jobs. We've foolishly allowed all of the ISPs to merge to the point that most areas are served by one or two ISPs total. And if you're lucky enough to be in a market with two ISPs, one of them is usually not classifiable as "broadband". Your next best bet would to organize and implement a slowdown rather than quitting. At least then you're not going to starve waiting for something that will never happen... but then again given the state of customer service at most ISPs, it's also not likely to have any kind of noticeable impact - ISPs are already stupendously slow at completing tasks.
- featherverse 9y ago
  > ...you'll probably starve to death You shouldn't let fear rule your life and turn you into slaves for evil men. They are helpless without us. Sure they can hire scabs, but chances are those scabs won't know how to do the job.

Ygg2 9y ago

> If you work for telecoms who support a non-neutral internet, then quit. Go on strike. For shame Peter! That's class warfare.

jcadam 9y ago

> They say there's a shortage of qualified I.T. people. Whoever told you that is lying to you.

featherverse 9y ago
> Whoever told you that is lying to you. No. The key word in the statement is "qualified". The marketplace is flooded with unqualified candidates with 4 year degrees. Capability in the tech industry can't be taught in 4 years. It's a life-long passion. And those people are extremely rare. This is why you keep seeing preventable security breaches in giant corporations. They can't find competent employees.

em3rgent0rdr 9y ago

> "take back what used to belongs to us in the first place" Could you elaborate about how we used to be the owners of the ISPs? Are you referring to the use of eminent domain laws to lay cable?

droidist2 9y ago
I think they mean the internet in general, built originally by the US government.
- em3rgent0rdr 9y ago
  ARPANET infrastructure became redundant and obsolete after private entites made better and faster backbone links, and so was decommissioned in 1990.
featherverse 9y ago
Happily. The first ISPs were small BBSes operated by single SysOps, scattered across all the towns in America. There were a few corporate exceptions like CompuServ but the majority of the original consumer internet was completely owned and controlled by regular people with a passion for the technology.

awalton 9y ago

> If you work for telecoms who support a non-neutral internet, then quit. Go on strike. Work only for companies who support Net Neutrality. ...you'll probably starve to death, though. Even with the immense shortage of technicians, there's also an immense shortage of ISPs that give a damn about Net Neutrality and are willing and/or able to give people jobs. We've foolishly allowed all of the ISPs to merge to the point that most areas are served by one or two ISPs total. And if you're lucky enough to be in a market with two ISPs, one of them is usually not classifiable as "broadband". Your next best bet would to organize and implement a slowdown rather than quitting. At least then you're not going to starve waiting for something that will never happen... but then again given the state of customer service at most ISPs, it's also not likely to have any kind of noticeable impact - ISPs are already stupendously slow at completing tasks.

featherverse 9y ago
> ...you'll probably starve to death You shouldn't let fear rule your life and turn you into slaves for evil men. They are helpless without us. Sure they can hire scabs, but chances are those scabs won't know how to do the job.