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What is the problem with strong, dominant and successful men? Or boys aiming to become one and live an oustanding life? All my friends since childhood wanted t

What is the problem with strong, dominant and successful men? Or boys aiming to become one and live an oustanding life? All my friends since childhood wanted to rule the world if they could, but too much television turned them into spending-machines (and readers of bad articles).

Double_a_92 9y ago
They would be more "successful" than women... We can't allow that to happen. So let's cripple anyone instead. /s
- owebmaster 9y ago
  We men have genetically more drive and NEED to be successful than women. We needed it to survive and we are the genes that survived. Ask a man to not live up for this way is the same as to ask a woman to never conceive a child.
  - louisswiss 9y ago
    Sources/evidence for this...?
    - owebmaster 9y ago
      Do you have a basic understanding of how conception works? It is needed to understand why men must proactively find a partner to copulate. The ones that don't have the minimum capacity to succeed at this are eliminated. And this proccess is still running.
    - Chris2048 9y ago
      I might claim 12334 + 21323 = 33657 What sources might I provide?
  - eigenstuff 9y ago
    As a woman who is never having children because they'd get in the way of my career, thanks for the laugh.
    - Double_a_92 9y ago
      How to fail in the game of evolution...
- megaman22 9y ago
  Harrison Bergeron is rapidly becoming reality. Rather than worship success, we're all a big bucket of crabs.
  - beaconstudios 9y ago
    just read the synopsis of the book on wikipedia - very pointed and more than a little harrowing.
ajurna 9y ago
Nothing wrong with being strong, successful and dominant, right up until you cant take the pressure. Then you are too strong, dominant and successful to ask for help. what does it mean to be strong? is it without weakness? or the strength to acknowledge that weakness. If you're so strong you never cry is that really strength? being dominant sounds like a good idea but once you think about it, it seems a bit absurd. everything humans do well we do as a team. being dominant only means you can be in charge of a team and not a supporting part. and lastly success. What is success? is it just money? that's hardly a good measure. is it to be happy? and if that comes at the expense of not being "strong and dominant" then what have you left? You're describing a fantasy, an archetype and it does you and men in general no favours by striving to be something so ephemeral. In the end you will always fail and then where are you?
- owebmaster 9y ago
  > what does it mean to be strong? is it without weakness? or the strength to acknowledge that weakness. If you're so strong you never cry is that really strength? To be strong is to know that society will pull you down if you don't react with the same or more strength. I'm talking about men that don't have rich and/or protective parents, which is most of us, afaik. > being dominant sounds like a good idea but once you think about it, it seems a bit absurd. everything humans do well we do as a team. being dominant only means you can be in charge of a team and not a supporting part. There is so many roles in society still to be fulfilled. Social dynamics are this: dynamic. Someone might be in charge of one interaction but play a supporting part in another. I don't see any incongruence on this. > and lastly success. What is success? is it just money? that's hardly a good measure. is it to be happy? and if that comes at the expense of not being "strong and dominant" then what have you left? There is no need to fix the discussion around the 3 adjectives used in the article, but does it really make sense to question that men want to be successful? Not even this can be just simple acknowledged? > You're describing a fantasy, an archetype and it does you and men in general no favours by striving to be something so ephemeral. The article described. I just asked why not?
- an_d_rew 9y ago
  Well said!

Double_a_92 9y ago

They would be more "successful" than women... We can't allow that to happen. So let's cripple anyone instead. /s

owebmaster 9y ago
We men have genetically more drive and NEED to be successful than women. We needed it to survive and we are the genes that survived. Ask a man to not live up for this way is the same as to ask a woman to never conceive a child.
- louisswiss 9y ago
  Sources/evidence for this...?
  - owebmaster 9y ago
    Do you have a basic understanding of how conception works? It is needed to understand why men must proactively find a partner to copulate. The ones that don't have the minimum capacity to succeed at this are eliminated. And this proccess is still running.
  - Chris2048 9y ago
    I might claim 12334 + 21323 = 33657 What sources might I provide?
- eigenstuff 9y ago
  As a woman who is never having children because they'd get in the way of my career, thanks for the laugh.
  - Double_a_92 9y ago
    How to fail in the game of evolution...
megaman22 9y ago
Harrison Bergeron is rapidly becoming reality. Rather than worship success, we're all a big bucket of crabs.
- beaconstudios 9y ago
  just read the synopsis of the book on wikipedia - very pointed and more than a little harrowing.

ajurna 9y ago

Nothing wrong with being strong, successful and dominant, right up until you cant take the pressure. Then you are too strong, dominant and successful to ask for help. what does it mean to be strong? is it without weakness? or the strength to acknowledge that weakness. If you're so strong you never cry is that really strength? being dominant sounds like a good idea but once you think about it, it seems a bit absurd. everything humans do well we do as a team. being dominant only means you can be in charge of a team and not a supporting part. and lastly success. What is success? is it just money? that's hardly a good measure. is it to be happy? and if that comes at the expense of not being "strong and dominant" then what have you left? You're describing a fantasy, an archetype and it does you and men in general no favours by striving to be something so ephemeral. In the end you will always fail and then where are you?

owebmaster 9y ago
> what does it mean to be strong? is it without weakness? or the strength to acknowledge that weakness. If you're so strong you never cry is that really strength? To be strong is to know that society will pull you down if you don't react with the same or more strength. I'm talking about men that don't have rich and/or protective parents, which is most of us, afaik. > being dominant sounds like a good idea but once you think about it, it seems a bit absurd. everything humans do well we do as a team. being dominant only means you can be in charge of a team and not a supporting part. There is so many roles in society still to be fulfilled. Social dynamics are this: dynamic. Someone might be in charge of one interaction but play a supporting part in another. I don't see any incongruence on this. > and lastly success. What is success? is it just money? that's hardly a good measure. is it to be happy? and if that comes at the expense of not being "strong and dominant" then what have you left? There is no need to fix the discussion around the 3 adjectives used in the article, but does it really make sense to question that men want to be successful? Not even this can be just simple acknowledged? > You're describing a fantasy, an archetype and it does you and men in general no favours by striving to be something so ephemeral. The article described. I just asked why not?
an_d_rew 9y ago
Well said!