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So both Apple and Google control the market, and each uses the "not a monopoly" excuse because of the other company. There's no practical difference.

tehwebguy 9y ago
Many (or most?) bundled iOS apps can be removed https://support.apple.com/en-au/HT204221 https://support.apple.com/en-au/HT204221
- Nullabillity 9y ago
  > Removing built-in iOS apps doesn't free up storage space on your device. So it does the same as disabling them on Android.
  - lumisota 9y ago
    The linked article was for iOS 10. iOS 11 deletes the apps properly: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT208094 https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT208094
- Fnoord 9y ago
  Hate to burst the bubble for you but Android has had this feature for a long, long time. I remember doing this on Android 4.3.
tonyedgecombe 9y ago
There is a huge practical difference and that is where their revenue comes from.
millstone 9y ago
The key difference is the OEM license agreements. Google includes dubious requirements in their licensing terms, such as the anti-fragmentation clause. But Apple does not license their software to OEMs, and so cannot run afoul of antitrust IP licensing issues.
Fnoord 9y ago
They have a duopoly [1]. The linked article explains what a duopoly is, and cites relevant examples. I can tell you of another very relevant US-centric example but its not in business: Republican and democrat. The impact a duopoly has on a market is vastly different from a monopoly. One problem could be price fixing; but that could happen with more than 2 companies as well. Then we speak of a cartel. The problem with a monopoly isn't per se that it exists; it becomes anti competitive business practices when the monopoly is abused to exercise control over other markets. I'd like to compare it with a benign tumor which ends up spreading. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duopoly https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duopoly
floatingatoll 9y ago
There is one difference: that’d be a Duopoly, not a Monopoly.

tehwebguy 9y ago

Many (or most?) bundled iOS apps can be removed https://support.apple.com/en-au/HT204221 https://support.apple.com/en-au/HT204221

Nullabillity 9y ago
> Removing built-in iOS apps doesn't free up storage space on your device. So it does the same as disabling them on Android.
- lumisota 9y ago
  The linked article was for iOS 10. iOS 11 deletes the apps properly: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT208094 https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT208094
Fnoord 9y ago
Hate to burst the bubble for you but Android has had this feature for a long, long time. I remember doing this on Android 4.3.

tonyedgecombe 9y ago

There is a huge practical difference and that is where their revenue comes from.

millstone 9y ago

The key difference is the OEM license agreements. Google includes dubious requirements in their licensing terms, such as the anti-fragmentation clause. But Apple does not license their software to OEMs, and so cannot run afoul of antitrust IP licensing issues.

Fnoord 9y ago

They have a duopoly [1]. The linked article explains what a duopoly is, and cites relevant examples. I can tell you of another very relevant US-centric example but its not in business: Republican and democrat. The impact a duopoly has on a market is vastly different from a monopoly. One problem could be price fixing; but that could happen with more than 2 companies as well. Then we speak of a cartel. The problem with a monopoly isn't per se that it exists; it becomes anti competitive business practices when the monopoly is abused to exercise control over other markets. I'd like to compare it with a benign tumor which ends up spreading. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duopoly https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duopoly

floatingatoll 9y ago

There is one difference: that’d be a Duopoly, not a Monopoly.