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That is not true. Maybe if you have money, and a lot of it. Even then therapy is no ultimate solution, most likely they'll just recommend you to take drugs that

That is not true. Maybe if you have money, and a lot of it. Even then therapy is no ultimate solution, most likely they'll just recommend you to take drugs that numb you down. The world is a horrible place, humans are horrible beings, life mostly sucks for the big majority of people. If suicide was not forbidden by religion or society I am pretty sure lot of people would op out and that for good reasons.

paloaltokid 9y ago
I’m sorry to hear that that is your view of life. From my own experience of having money, I can say with some amount of certainty that it has no bearing on your happiness. But it is possible to be happy, that much I know. The secret is that it takes work and an open-minded attitude. In my own experience, meditation is the only thing I’ve found that really works. Maybe you can give it a try and see if it works for you too.
- Simon_says 9y ago
  That doesn't match my experience. I've been rich, and I've been poor, and trust me, rich is better. It's not like being rich solves all problems, not even close, but there's a class of problems that just go away if you can throw a few dollars at them, and I'm not even talking about particularly large amounts of money. And additionally there's a constant low-grade stress from living without a safety net that goes away once you have a solid emergency fund, insurance, healthcare, personal safety, etc..
- NiklasMort 9y ago
  My main point was that professional therapy and counseling is very expensive, even in social countries like Western Europe. Free resources are all exhausted and often bad, private therapy is 100$/h. Now even if you earn decent that's a lot of cash but people with issues usually barely have enough to pay rent and food. And as to meditation or "talking helps": NOTHING changes reality. I can do all positive thinking I want in the end I am still surrounded by endless suffering and misery.
  - paloaltokid 9y ago
    > And as to meditation or "talking helps": NOTHING changes reality. I can do all positive thinking I want in the end I am still surrounded by endless suffering and misery. That's where I respectfully disagree with you. I've been practicing meditation for over a decade and it very much changed my reality.
graeme 9y ago
Money isn't required. Just a friend or family member who's a good listener, and has some life wisdom. At least for the first steps of simply talking about a difficult issue. You probably can't keep them secret, which was Zeller's reason for not discussing his story. But on the other hand, the talking helps. It can be hard to find the right person sometimes, but they exist.

paloaltokid 9y ago

I’m sorry to hear that that is your view of life. From my own experience of having money, I can say with some amount of certainty that it has no bearing on your happiness. But it is possible to be happy, that much I know. The secret is that it takes work and an open-minded attitude. In my own experience, meditation is the only thing I’ve found that really works. Maybe you can give it a try and see if it works for you too.

Simon_says 9y ago
That doesn't match my experience. I've been rich, and I've been poor, and trust me, rich is better. It's not like being rich solves all problems, not even close, but there's a class of problems that just go away if you can throw a few dollars at them, and I'm not even talking about particularly large amounts of money. And additionally there's a constant low-grade stress from living without a safety net that goes away once you have a solid emergency fund, insurance, healthcare, personal safety, etc..
NiklasMort 9y ago
My main point was that professional therapy and counseling is very expensive, even in social countries like Western Europe. Free resources are all exhausted and often bad, private therapy is 100$/h. Now even if you earn decent that's a lot of cash but people with issues usually barely have enough to pay rent and food. And as to meditation or "talking helps": NOTHING changes reality. I can do all positive thinking I want in the end I am still surrounded by endless suffering and misery.
- paloaltokid 9y ago
  > And as to meditation or "talking helps": NOTHING changes reality. I can do all positive thinking I want in the end I am still surrounded by endless suffering and misery. That's where I respectfully disagree with you. I've been practicing meditation for over a decade and it very much changed my reality.

graeme 9y ago

Money isn't required. Just a friend or family member who's a good listener, and has some life wisdom. At least for the first steps of simply talking about a difficult issue. You probably can't keep them secret, which was Zeller's reason for not discussing his story. But on the other hand, the talking helps. It can be hard to find the right person sometimes, but they exist.