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> Fast lanes DO exist in other countries right now. It's called shaping and you easily pay 2x the price to avoid it. Everyone above the poverty line pays.

notyourday 9y ago
No, it is called PNIs to Comcast, Verizon, AT&T and other eyeball networks where whoever puts the PNIs still pays to Comcast, Verizon, AT&T and other eyeball networks to reach their eyeballs over those PNIs.
- ReverseCold 9y ago
  PNIs?
  - ShabbosGoy 9y ago
    Private Network Interconnect "With peering, there are two methods that connectivity is formed on. The first is where direct connectivity is established between individual networks routers with multiple 10Gigabit Ethernet or 100Gigabit Ethernet links. This sort of connectivity is known as “private peering” or PNI (Private Network Interconnect)."[0] [0] https://aws.amazon.com/blogs/architecture/internet-routing-and-traffic-engineering/ https://aws.amazon.com/blogs/architecture/internet-routing-a...
another-dave 9y ago
Is traffic shaping website specific? I thought it was just related to packet size, etc. — as in, British Telecom may throttle bandwidth at peak times for data that looks like it may be videos, torrents etc. In my mind, this is very different to allowing YouTube load faster than Vimeo
- dx034 9y ago
  Haven't heard of shaping before in the UK. I'm not aware there's any form of payment for prioritised traffic, at least not for broadband. On the contrary, BT participates heavily in LINX, the London network exchange. Speed differences will happen though, e.g. I notice that Netflix sometimes tends to be a bit slower but that doesn't improve using a VPN so that I guess it's not BT's fault.
  - another-dave 9y ago
    yeah, didn't mean payment for priotisation, just that they may implement throttling for certain types of traffic — BT was also meant as a 'for instance' hypothetical example :) Can't remember who my ISP was at the time, but definitely have hit times when (especially gaming) would be fast & then would hit a wall suddenly. That said, seems to happen less recently, was more in early broadband days.

notyourday 9y ago

No, it is called PNIs to Comcast, Verizon, AT&T and other eyeball networks where whoever puts the PNIs still pays to Comcast, Verizon, AT&T and other eyeball networks to reach their eyeballs over those PNIs.

ReverseCold 9y ago
PNIs?
- ShabbosGoy 9y ago
  Private Network Interconnect "With peering, there are two methods that connectivity is formed on. The first is where direct connectivity is established between individual networks routers with multiple 10Gigabit Ethernet or 100Gigabit Ethernet links. This sort of connectivity is known as “private peering” or PNI (Private Network Interconnect)."[0] [0] https://aws.amazon.com/blogs/architecture/internet-routing-and-traffic-engineering/ https://aws.amazon.com/blogs/architecture/internet-routing-a...

another-dave 9y ago

Is traffic shaping website specific? I thought it was just related to packet size, etc. — as in, British Telecom may throttle bandwidth at peak times for data that looks like it may be videos, torrents etc. In my mind, this is very different to allowing YouTube load faster than Vimeo

dx034 9y ago
Haven't heard of shaping before in the UK. I'm not aware there's any form of payment for prioritised traffic, at least not for broadband. On the contrary, BT participates heavily in LINX, the London network exchange. Speed differences will happen though, e.g. I notice that Netflix sometimes tends to be a bit slower but that doesn't improve using a VPN so that I guess it's not BT's fault.
- another-dave 9y ago
  yeah, didn't mean payment for priotisation, just that they may implement throttling for certain types of traffic — BT was also meant as a 'for instance' hypothetical example :) Can't remember who my ISP was at the time, but definitely have hit times when (especially gaming) would be fast & then would hit a wall suddenly. That said, seems to happen less recently, was more in early broadband days.