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Believe it or not: Many of us far prefer Windows to MacOS. And it's not just old habits: I came to the various linux desktop environments after Windows and i

Believe it or not: Many of us far prefer Windows to MacOS. And it's not just old habits: I came to the various linux desktop environments after Windows and i still prefer some of them over both Windows and MacOS. (Spent almost 3 years on Mac. Started as an enthusiastic user. Left really disillusioned. Have later come to the conclusion that it is really great and I'm just incompatible:-)

8ytecoder 9y ago
Yeah, if you have never used another OS, MacOS seems like the best. But when even the simplest pro things don't work, it gets beyond annoying. Some examples - Cut, Paste files; Shift select files; Minimise and how it works with Cmd+Tab; Maximise the way it works now. I need something like BetterTouchTool to even tolerate MacOS. It's the terminal (Ubuntu on Windows is great but still needs more work) and the quality hardware that's keeping me on Mac.
- majewsky 9y ago
  Hell yeah. I had to work with a Macbook for 3 years now, and I long for next week when my new non-Macbook finally arrives in the office.
- simonh 9y ago
  Some of that behaviour is a bit awkward, but then there are amazing magical jewels like Automator and active folders. But window management on Windows is a pain now with auto-snapping and the stupid charms thing or whatever it is popping up all the time.
  - hirsin 9y ago
    Charms? Like the sidebar? That dies with Windows 8. There's a selection of other windows that appears if you snap something, but if you ignore it it goes away.
    - pzone 9y ago
      It can also be disabled in the taskbar settings.
- setpatchaddress 9y ago
  > Shift select files I don't get this one. Do you not like that it's different from Windows; do you not know that the feature exists; something else? <http://osxdaily.com/2013/09/16/select-multiple-files-mac-os-x/> http://osxdaily.com/2013/09/16/select-multiple-files-mac-os-...
  - fiddlerwoaroof 9y ago
    Yeah, it's been a while since I've used windows seriously (e.g. the last version I used consistently was 2000), but afaict, selection in Finder's detail view works basically the way it works in list-boxes on all platforms: shift-click selects a range from the last selected item, command-click (ctrl-click on non-Mac) selects individual items. Unless, perhaps, Windows Explorer doesn't behave like a list-box and selects individual items with shift-click? Or, Windows lets you select a range in icon mode, while Macs don't?
  - 8ytecoder 9y ago
    Not shift click but rather shift + arrow keys. Shift + click requires moving to the mouse. The other option is using the list view - which I don't prefer. (May be I've something messed up? I can't seem to shift + arrow to select more than a few files.
    - gbear605 9y ago
      It sounds like something is messed up on your computer. shift + arrow keys works perfectly for me in all three Finder views.
- WillPostForFood 9y ago
  Some examples - Cut, Paste files You can press Command+C to copy files, then press Command+Option+V to move them.
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ska 9y ago
See my added comment - this had nothing to do with user preference or any judgement on which system was "better".
skygazer 9y ago
When you've run an obstacle course to fluency, often a Stockholm syndrome sets in, and you think this is the best obstacle course. It changes you; how you reason, predict and judge. It become natural and intuitive. Your neural net overfits. Other obstacle courses seem arbitrary and unreasoned. They inspire disbelief and derision.

8ytecoder 9y ago

Yeah, if you have never used another OS, MacOS seems like the best. But when even the simplest pro things don't work, it gets beyond annoying. Some examples - Cut, Paste files; Shift select files; Minimise and how it works with Cmd+Tab; Maximise the way it works now. I need something like BetterTouchTool to even tolerate MacOS. It's the terminal (Ubuntu on Windows is great but still needs more work) and the quality hardware that's keeping me on Mac.

majewsky 9y ago
Hell yeah. I had to work with a Macbook for 3 years now, and I long for next week when my new non-Macbook finally arrives in the office.
simonh 9y ago
Some of that behaviour is a bit awkward, but then there are amazing magical jewels like Automator and active folders. But window management on Windows is a pain now with auto-snapping and the stupid charms thing or whatever it is popping up all the time.
- hirsin 9y ago
  Charms? Like the sidebar? That dies with Windows 8. There's a selection of other windows that appears if you snap something, but if you ignore it it goes away.
  - pzone 9y ago
    It can also be disabled in the taskbar settings.
setpatchaddress 9y ago
> Shift select files I don't get this one. Do you not like that it's different from Windows; do you not know that the feature exists; something else? <http://osxdaily.com/2013/09/16/select-multiple-files-mac-os-x/> http://osxdaily.com/2013/09/16/select-multiple-files-mac-os-...
- fiddlerwoaroof 9y ago
  Yeah, it's been a while since I've used windows seriously (e.g. the last version I used consistently was 2000), but afaict, selection in Finder's detail view works basically the way it works in list-boxes on all platforms: shift-click selects a range from the last selected item, command-click (ctrl-click on non-Mac) selects individual items. Unless, perhaps, Windows Explorer doesn't behave like a list-box and selects individual items with shift-click? Or, Windows lets you select a range in icon mode, while Macs don't?
- 8ytecoder 9y ago
  Not shift click but rather shift + arrow keys. Shift + click requires moving to the mouse. The other option is using the list view - which I don't prefer. (May be I've something messed up? I can't seem to shift + arrow to select more than a few files.
  - gbear605 9y ago
    It sounds like something is messed up on your computer. shift + arrow keys works perfectly for me in all three Finder views.
WillPostForFood 9y ago
Some examples - Cut, Paste files You can press Command+C to copy files, then press Command+Option+V to move them.

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ska 9y ago

See my added comment - this had nothing to do with user preference or any judgement on which system was "better".

skygazer 9y ago

When you've run an obstacle course to fluency, often a Stockholm syndrome sets in, and you think this is the best obstacle course. It changes you; how you reason, predict and judge. It become natural and intuitive. Your neural net overfits. Other obstacle courses seem arbitrary and unreasoned. They inspire disbelief and derision.