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As someone outside of the US, I expect there would be such an uproar over here if we had to start waiting longer and longer for fb/twitter/youtube/etc pages to

As someone outside of the US, I expect there would be such an uproar over here if we had to start waiting longer and longer for fb/twitter/youtube/etc pages to load, that people will just switch to a European business instead. Currently no one over here even talks about NN, but as soon as page loads increase dramatically and actually affect people in their day to day lives you can bet they'll switch. I imagine European businesses are scrambling right now in order to be the next big social network.

PuffinBlue 9y ago
Would this really happen? I think the global players will just serve content from outside the US (they've all got datacenters in the EU anyway).
2close4comfort 9y ago
And the argument that Chairman Pai made that this is what is holding back innovation, we will really see what that looks like when people have to pay for Facebook wonder how that might affect them...
icebraining 9y ago
I think the fight is mostly over the last mile, not the backbone that connects DCs to intercontinental cables.
chartgerink 9y ago
Remember the experiment from 2009 where net neutrality was thought to be implemented through competition in the EU? Horrible failure and definitely did not results in NN being maintained, EU had to intervene with legislation to stop the drift away from NN.
- pmontra 9y ago
  Do you mean this proposal? https://euobserver.com/creative/27859 https://euobserver.com/creative/27859 (from 2009)
  - chartgerink 9y ago
    Yup > This approach is backed by the European Commission, which argues that if consumers feel their content is somehow being compromised, they will switch to other providers. So if anyone comes up with free-market will invisibly push for NN argument, slap them with this and see how they respond ;-)
acobster 9y ago
It's not that Facebook (or whoever) will suffer, it's that competition with Facebook will suffer.

PuffinBlue 9y ago

Would this really happen? I think the global players will just serve content from outside the US (they've all got datacenters in the EU anyway).

2close4comfort 9y ago

And the argument that Chairman Pai made that this is what is holding back innovation, we will really see what that looks like when people have to pay for Facebook wonder how that might affect them...

icebraining 9y ago

I think the fight is mostly over the last mile, not the backbone that connects DCs to intercontinental cables.

chartgerink 9y ago

Remember the experiment from 2009 where net neutrality was thought to be implemented through competition in the EU? Horrible failure and definitely did not results in NN being maintained, EU had to intervene with legislation to stop the drift away from NN.

pmontra 9y ago
Do you mean this proposal? https://euobserver.com/creative/27859 https://euobserver.com/creative/27859 (from 2009)
- chartgerink 9y ago
  Yup > This approach is backed by the European Commission, which argues that if consumers feel their content is somehow being compromised, they will switch to other providers. So if anyone comes up with free-market will invisibly push for NN argument, slap them with this and see how they respond ;-)

acobster 9y ago

It's not that Facebook (or whoever) will suffer, it's that competition with Facebook will suffer.