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So a "cheap" Android phone costing US$500 that came out like yesterday is really good at opening and closing applications. The new benchmark of What Makes A Rea

by dep_b 9y ago

So a "cheap" Android phone costing US$500 that came out like yesterday is really good at opening and closing applications. The new benchmark of What Makes A Really Great Phone after It Must Have Slim Bezels wasn't an argument anymore.

lern_too_spel 9y ago
> So a "cheap" Android phone costing US$500 that came out like yesterday See the second video, which shows a $300 phone of the previous generation beating an iPhone of the latest generation at the time that cost twice as much. I couldn't find a head to head comparison of the iPhone X against a cheap Android of the previous generation, but I expect the outcome to be the same. > is really good at opening and closing applications. The video doesn't show speed of closing applications. Opening communication applications is 90% of what users wait for when using a phone, and Android users wait less. Your artificial benchmarks that measure gaming performance aren't much use to the 99% of users who use their phones more for productivity than for AAA games.
- dep_b 9y ago
  We're measuring performance of computing devices with benchmarks for at least 20 years now. Most of the scenes still do it that way, for example comparing PC performance to Xbox or Playstation. AMD vs Nvidia. Nobody questions that a significant difference in benchmark results means a difference in real life performance. Except for some people living in the Android world. Why is that? I think it's a bit like people that are denying climate science. They keep looking for new kinds of benchmarks until they find something that fits their predetermined outcome. Some glacier got longer instead of shorter? and boom see no global warming. Some YouTube dude has a video that makes your phone looks fast? and boom look no further. Benchmarks suck!
  - lern_too_spel 9y ago
    Those benchmarks work ceteris paribus. All else being equal, a faster CPU, faster memory, and faster disk will translate to faster app launch times. In this case, they don't, as you can see with your own eyes. That's because the platforms are different. > Some YouTube dude has a video that makes your phone looks fast? Every single video that shows app launching has the same result. Don't believe them? Try it yourself. If you get a different result and post it to YouTube, all of your fanboy friends will love it, and you'll get some revenue. The rest of us are happy to use the more productive and less expensive phones. You're like a person who says climate change is due to solar flares but doesn't actually measure the effect of solar flares on climate to realize that there is a huge amount of warming that is not accounted for by that simple analysis.

by dep_b 9y ago

lern_too_spel 9y ago

> So a "cheap" Android phone costing US$500 that came out like yesterday See the second video, which shows a $300 phone of the previous generation beating an iPhone of the latest generation at the time that cost twice as much. I couldn't find a head to head comparison of the iPhone X against a cheap Android of the previous generation, but I expect the outcome to be the same. > is really good at opening and closing applications. The video doesn't show speed of closing applications. Opening communication applications is 90% of what users wait for when using a phone, and Android users wait less. Your artificial benchmarks that measure gaming performance aren't much use to the 99% of users who use their phones more for productivity than for AAA games.

dep_b 9y ago
We're measuring performance of computing devices with benchmarks for at least 20 years now. Most of the scenes still do it that way, for example comparing PC performance to Xbox or Playstation. AMD vs Nvidia. Nobody questions that a significant difference in benchmark results means a difference in real life performance. Except for some people living in the Android world. Why is that? I think it's a bit like people that are denying climate science. They keep looking for new kinds of benchmarks until they find something that fits their predetermined outcome. Some glacier got longer instead of shorter? and boom see no global warming. Some YouTube dude has a video that makes your phone looks fast? and boom look no further. Benchmarks suck!
- lern_too_spel 9y ago
  Those benchmarks work ceteris paribus. All else being equal, a faster CPU, faster memory, and faster disk will translate to faster app launch times. In this case, they don't, as you can see with your own eyes. That's because the platforms are different. > Some YouTube dude has a video that makes your phone looks fast? Every single video that shows app launching has the same result. Don't believe them? Try it yourself. If you get a different result and post it to YouTube, all of your fanboy friends will love it, and you'll get some revenue. The rest of us are happy to use the more productive and less expensive phones. You're like a person who says climate change is due to solar flares but doesn't actually measure the effect of solar flares on climate to realize that there is a huge amount of warming that is not accounted for by that simple analysis.