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I'm only paying my ISP so much money because there are no other options (thanks to net neutrality). If there were cheaper subsidized options, I would highly con

I'm only paying my ISP so much money because there are no other options (thanks to net neutrality). If there were cheaper subsidized options, I would highly consider them. What if I only order stuff from Amazon and don't want to pay a PDP for delivery from other stores? Should the government make that illegal?

dozzie 9y ago
> I'm only paying my ISP so much money because there are no other options (thanks to net neutrality). No. This is thanks to you living under a monopoly, which seems to be a natural equilibrium state for infrastructure. Net neutrality has nothing to do with monopoly holder extracting as much as they can get away with. You would see exactly the same if you were getting your water from mostly unregulated private company.
- miguelrochefort 9y ago
  Then why the hell are we fighting for net neutrality when the real problem is that ISPs are monopolies? Net neutrality won't do anything to fix that.
  - dozzie 9y ago
    Because net neutrality is an important issue on its own, that's why. You don't close fire departments left and right just because they don't fix poverty or world hunger.
  - tobylane 9y ago
    Neutrality is a fix for a monopoly. Monopolies won't get fixed because of the geographical scale and the politics involved. The UK 'unbundled' its internet about 15 years ago, where each (usually around 10 in urban areas) ISP has equal access to the line between a local exchange and the end user. They also buy bandwidth on the big pipes between the local exchanges and the internet, or lays their own pipes. It's the true fix, where neutrality is a realistic fix (that you might need either way).
ttoinou 9y ago
I'm only paying my ISP so much money because there are no other options In France we have different operators. Is there really no competition where you live ?
- chrisbennet 9y ago
  In the US it is pretty rare to have a choice of Internet service provider.

dozzie 9y ago

> I'm only paying my ISP so much money because there are no other options (thanks to net neutrality). No. This is thanks to you living under a monopoly, which seems to be a natural equilibrium state for infrastructure. Net neutrality has nothing to do with monopoly holder extracting as much as they can get away with. You would see exactly the same if you were getting your water from mostly unregulated private company.

miguelrochefort 9y ago
Then why the hell are we fighting for net neutrality when the real problem is that ISPs are monopolies? Net neutrality won't do anything to fix that.
- dozzie 9y ago
  Because net neutrality is an important issue on its own, that's why. You don't close fire departments left and right just because they don't fix poverty or world hunger.
- tobylane 9y ago
  Neutrality is a fix for a monopoly. Monopolies won't get fixed because of the geographical scale and the politics involved. The UK 'unbundled' its internet about 15 years ago, where each (usually around 10 in urban areas) ISP has equal access to the line between a local exchange and the end user. They also buy bandwidth on the big pipes between the local exchanges and the internet, or lays their own pipes. It's the true fix, where neutrality is a realistic fix (that you might need either way).

ttoinou 9y ago

I'm only paying my ISP so much money because there are no other options In France we have different operators. Is there really no competition where you live ?

chrisbennet 9y ago
In the US it is pretty rare to have a choice of Internet service provider.