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It's become really easy to see when NYT has decided to push an agenda. The Trump/Russia thing, for a while. "Tech is evil" for a while now, too. It wouldn't be

by beaner 9y ago

It's become really easy to see when NYT has decided to push an agenda. The Trump/Russia thing, for a while. "Tech is evil" for a while now, too. It wouldn't be as annoying if they didn't promote themselves as a bastion of truth with marketing lines like "Independent Journalism. More essential than ever." Much of NYT is editorialized storytelling, not independent journalism. Sometimes it's overt, but more often it's subtle by the simple selection of what stories to publish and which to not. I feel like it didn't used to be this way and it has become worse over time.

nether 9y ago
> I feel like it didn't used to be this way and it has become worse over time. It's always been this way. It's just taken you this long to spot it.
gaius 9y ago
They can't not do this. They need the clicks.
icebraining 9y ago
Every organization pushes an agenda, independent journalists included. Having an agenda is part of being a person, and that's true even if you genuinely believe in reporting the truth. The people selling themselves as purely objective are the ones lying (even if also to themselves).
chickenfries 9y ago
This is an op ed. By David Brooks.
- beaner 9y ago
  As per my comment, individual op-eds are not necessarily the problem, it is the curation of various articles fitting a theme across the entire paper by the editorial board.
intended 9y ago
Dear God no. If anything the NYT and other media firms are far behind the curve. No no, they are the children, not the piper in this case. There’s finally been a perfect storm of disasters that even the most tone deaf optimist has to give up and acknowledge what the nay sayers have been saying. Even hacker news, generally one of the more advanced edges of the tech sphere only recently turned on the old narrative. Edit: And this is an op ed, so they’re still behind imo. Edit 2: an actual example is Murdoch - he has repeatedly attacked google etc as destroyers of his revenue.

by beaner 9y ago

nether 9y ago

> I feel like it didn't used to be this way and it has become worse over time. It's always been this way. It's just taken you this long to spot it.

gaius 9y ago

They can't not do this. They need the clicks.

icebraining 9y ago

Every organization pushes an agenda, independent journalists included. Having an agenda is part of being a person, and that's true even if you genuinely believe in reporting the truth. The people selling themselves as purely objective are the ones lying (even if also to themselves).

chickenfries 9y ago

This is an op ed. By David Brooks.

beaner 9y ago
As per my comment, individual op-eds are not necessarily the problem, it is the curation of various articles fitting a theme across the entire paper by the editorial board.

intended 9y ago

Dear God no. If anything the NYT and other media firms are far behind the curve. No no, they are the children, not the piper in this case. There’s finally been a perfect storm of disasters that even the most tone deaf optimist has to give up and acknowledge what the nay sayers have been saying. Even hacker news, generally one of the more advanced edges of the tech sphere only recently turned on the old narrative. Edit: And this is an op ed, so they’re still behind imo. Edit 2: an actual example is Murdoch - he has repeatedly attacked google etc as destroyers of his revenue.