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>If you think it was a witty remark and not unsolicited... You should be able to see that the first post is an opening for humour. Speaking of decency and resp

by ygaf 9y ago

>If you think it was a witty remark and not unsolicited... You should be able to see that the first post is an opening for humour. Speaking of decency and respect, the word "trap", as opposed to being an insult, is a compliment elevating a subset of transsexuals. At the risk of making a deadly faux-pas like the flagged poster, trans people do aim to have the appearance of the opposite sex right?

DonHopkins 9y ago
Your questions aren't worthy of answers. Go back to 4chan, please.
- ygaf 9y ago
  >still acting like I 'come from' 4chan It must be great having cheap stock answers for everything. Flippant as I am, I was honestly curious about how you and another poster took the word "trap" as an insult to transsexuals. To me traps were a separate concept to transsexuals, a trap is something any man could be at any point in time. Forget the question about how you know Simon_says so well.
  - DonHopkins 9y ago
    You said "haven't been there for years" which means you came from 4chan. So does your behavior, pretending you don't know the word "trap" or purposefully mis-gendering is an insult to transgender people. That bullshit doesn't play here. You still haven't asked any questions worth answering. https://www.glaad.org/reference/transgender https://www.glaad.org/reference/transgender >Defamatory Language >Defamatory: "deceptive," "fooling," "pretending," "posing," "trap," or "masquerading" >Gender identity is an integral part of a person's identity. Do not characterize transgender people as "deceptive," as "fooling" or "trapping" others, or as "pretending" to be, "posing" or "masquerading" as a man or a woman. Such descriptions are inaccurate, defamatory and insulting. (See "passing" and "stealth" as problematic terms above.) Now you know. So stop pretending you didn't know before.
    - ygaf 9y ago
      >pretending you don't know the word "trap" I'm not pretending to not know the word; it made sense on sight to me as "someone who fools you". Easiest term around. And that is clearly a concept of its own not a synonym for transsexuals, hence my confusion when a poster gets flagged for an affront to them. You have actually been helpful now though, despite thinking you're slamdunking me. Passing is a bad word now too? I think I'm getting the idea; transsexuals are their own sex. But then isn't the 'trans' in the word misleading?
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      - pennaMan 9y ago
        Am I in the South Park version of hn?
      - DonHopkins 9y ago
        Next you're going explain to me that you're not a "homophobe" because you're not literally "afraid" of homosexuals, you just hate them without fearing them. That's not the way language works, and I've heard all of your arguments before. You have nothing to contribute to the conversation.
        sctb 9y ago
        All of you: please stop this now.
        msla 9y ago
        Would you please un-kill this comment? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15753759 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15753759
        ygaf 9y ago
        (sctb's request acknowledged, replying to a separate poster) Why vouch for a post demonstrating such creepiness? And making a strange ad-hom. Nothing worth resurrecting as a HN post. I'm not even one who had flagged it.
  - thisacctforreal 9y ago
    "Trap" hasn't had a negative meaning tied to it in our past circles (chans/Rizon), where I think it might have originated. If someone didn't see it through that lens I could sympathize being offended by it, but even then I'd personally take it as a compliment as being "passable" ~

by ygaf 9y ago

DonHopkins 9y ago

Your questions aren't worthy of answers. Go back to 4chan, please.

ygaf 9y ago
>still acting like I 'come from' 4chan It must be great having cheap stock answers for everything. Flippant as I am, I was honestly curious about how you and another poster took the word "trap" as an insult to transsexuals. To me traps were a separate concept to transsexuals, a trap is something any man could be at any point in time. Forget the question about how you know Simon_says so well.
- DonHopkins 9y ago
  You said "haven't been there for years" which means you came from 4chan. So does your behavior, pretending you don't know the word "trap" or purposefully mis-gendering is an insult to transgender people. That bullshit doesn't play here. You still haven't asked any questions worth answering. https://www.glaad.org/reference/transgender https://www.glaad.org/reference/transgender >Defamatory Language >Defamatory: "deceptive," "fooling," "pretending," "posing," "trap," or "masquerading" >Gender identity is an integral part of a person's identity. Do not characterize transgender people as "deceptive," as "fooling" or "trapping" others, or as "pretending" to be, "posing" or "masquerading" as a man or a woman. Such descriptions are inaccurate, defamatory and insulting. (See "passing" and "stealth" as problematic terms above.) Now you know. So stop pretending you didn't know before.
  - ygaf 9y ago
    >pretending you don't know the word "trap" I'm not pretending to not know the word; it made sense on sight to me as "someone who fools you". Easiest term around. And that is clearly a concept of its own not a synonym for transsexuals, hence my confusion when a poster gets flagged for an affront to them. You have actually been helpful now though, despite thinking you're slamdunking me. Passing is a bad word now too? I think I'm getting the idea; transsexuals are their own sex. But then isn't the 'trans' in the word misleading?
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    - pennaMan 9y ago
      Am I in the South Park version of hn?
    - DonHopkins 9y ago
      Next you're going explain to me that you're not a "homophobe" because you're not literally "afraid" of homosexuals, you just hate them without fearing them. That's not the way language works, and I've heard all of your arguments before. You have nothing to contribute to the conversation.
      - sctb 9y ago
        All of you: please stop this now.
        msla 9y ago
        Would you please un-kill this comment? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15753759 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15753759
        ygaf 9y ago
        (sctb's request acknowledged, replying to a separate poster) Why vouch for a post demonstrating such creepiness? And making a strange ad-hom. Nothing worth resurrecting as a HN post. I'm not even one who had flagged it.
- thisacctforreal 9y ago
  "Trap" hasn't had a negative meaning tied to it in our past circles (chans/Rizon), where I think it might have originated. If someone didn't see it through that lens I could sympathize being offended by it, but even then I'd personally take it as a compliment as being "passable" ~