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Uber is like the Donald Trump of corporations. It sets new ground in how openly vile you can be without any consequences. Just like Donald Trump the real danger

Uber is like the Donald Trump of corporations. It sets new ground in how openly vile you can be without any consequences. Just like Donald Trump the real danger is not in Uber itself but in whatever it will be that uses it as a role model.

whatshisface 9y ago
I'm not sure if that's an accurate analogy. Few politicians would want to find themselves working in the climate Trump has found in Washington, (if anything, he has proven that a groundswell of popular support can't unseat a party establishment). Also, it simply would be inaccurate to describe Uber's actions as impotent. Edit: allow me to replace the word "found" with "created." I was just using a figure of speech.
- bduerst 9y ago
  >Few politicians would want to find themselves working in the climate Trump has found in Washington I can think of a few: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_2016#Other_major_candidates https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_ele... If you think the current sitting POTUS is an innocent victim of politics, then I have a bridge to sell you. Uber has used similar PR tactics in the past to deflect/detract from their actions.
  - mcny 9y ago
    > If you think the current sitting POTUS is an innocent victim of politics, then I have a bridge to sell you. Uber has used similar PR tactics in the past to deflect/detract from their actions. I think the point that the great great? grandparent top post was making is that whoever is in charge of dealing with the media at Uber is doing a horrible job. Also, I am sad that we don't talk about the policies and rather focus on the personal flaws. I think there would be a chance of a compromise if we debated on policy. I mean if we talk about just personality, what makes our Honorable Governor of New Jersey eligible for office? Not a fan of 45 but really I think politics has become too polarized.
stochastic_monk 9y ago
Just yesterday, I got some serious flak for suggesting that changing one person in leadership wasn't enough to make them not evil. I'm sad to see just how bad this is/was, but I'm not one bit surprised.
- pishpash 9y ago
  This happened last year.
  - stochastic_monk 9y ago
    But the coverup persisted until just now. Kalanick has been gone for almost half a year.
    - HaloZero 9y ago
      The new CEO has only been around for a month or two. I imagine it's a lot of information slowly coming forth.
      - ballenf 9y ago
        The SoftBank due diligence team likely uncovered it.
- leCapitalist 9y ago
  The new CEO found out about this, publicly disclosed it then fired the people responsible. Seems like progress to me.
- potatolicious 9y ago
  I think it's progress. Culture does tend to come from the top down - and just like dogs companies do have a habit of resembling their upper management. Looks like they fired two people over this, pretty immediately at that. Uncertain if the new CEO was aware of the cover-up until (presumably) contacted for comment by a news org. The fact that the cover-up persisted this long is bad, but on the other hand the Kalanick-era Uber probably would've gone to war with the journalists breaking the stories rather than admit fault, so there's that.
starik36 9y ago
I propose a new law, similar to Godwin's. "As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Trump approaches 1"
- knowThySelfx 9y ago
  You can't say anything approaching positive about Trump. You will be down voted. The vehement supporters of freedom of speech doesn't support this. Well, the irony.
  - Barrin92 9y ago
    the daily reminder that freedom of speech does not imply that anybody has to like what you have to say
    - knowThySelfx 9y ago
      That is exactly my point ;) The irony is lost. User starik36's comment was in a downvoted state. Which is what prompted me to write that comment. I didn't think what he said deemed a down vote because from general observation what he stated seems true.
      - clhodapp 9y ago
        There isn't any irony. Freedom of speech is about preventing government censorship of citizens and has absolutely nothing to do with shielding people from the social consequences of saying unpopular things. It's about being legally allowed to say unpopular things, not about stopping people from disliking what you say.
        knowThySelfx 9y ago
        I agree. That's all I meant too. Stating the obvious - As in, if you say anything in support of this Trump fellow, you will be down voted. And this is true as exemplified by the "down votes".
Justin_K 9y ago
No substance post, seeking the political low hanging fruit. Looks like the new crowd here loves it, giving you plenty of up votes.
- plandis 9y ago
  What part exactly do you disagree with?
- angersock 9y ago
  The post is correct though in its analogy.

whatshisface 9y ago

I'm not sure if that's an accurate analogy. Few politicians would want to find themselves working in the climate Trump has found in Washington, (if anything, he has proven that a groundswell of popular support can't unseat a party establishment). Also, it simply would be inaccurate to describe Uber's actions as impotent. Edit: allow me to replace the word "found" with "created." I was just using a figure of speech.

bduerst 9y ago
>Few politicians would want to find themselves working in the climate Trump has found in Washington I can think of a few: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_2016#Other_major_candidates https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_ele... If you think the current sitting POTUS is an innocent victim of politics, then I have a bridge to sell you. Uber has used similar PR tactics in the past to deflect/detract from their actions.
- mcny 9y ago
  > If you think the current sitting POTUS is an innocent victim of politics, then I have a bridge to sell you. Uber has used similar PR tactics in the past to deflect/detract from their actions. I think the point that the great great? grandparent top post was making is that whoever is in charge of dealing with the media at Uber is doing a horrible job. Also, I am sad that we don't talk about the policies and rather focus on the personal flaws. I think there would be a chance of a compromise if we debated on policy. I mean if we talk about just personality, what makes our Honorable Governor of New Jersey eligible for office? Not a fan of 45 but really I think politics has become too polarized.

stochastic_monk 9y ago

Just yesterday, I got some serious flak for suggesting that changing one person in leadership wasn't enough to make them not evil. I'm sad to see just how bad this is/was, but I'm not one bit surprised.

pishpash 9y ago
This happened last year.
- stochastic_monk 9y ago
  But the coverup persisted until just now. Kalanick has been gone for almost half a year.
  - HaloZero 9y ago
    The new CEO has only been around for a month or two. I imagine it's a lot of information slowly coming forth.
    - ballenf 9y ago
      The SoftBank due diligence team likely uncovered it.
leCapitalist 9y ago
The new CEO found out about this, publicly disclosed it then fired the people responsible. Seems like progress to me.
potatolicious 9y ago
I think it's progress. Culture does tend to come from the top down - and just like dogs companies do have a habit of resembling their upper management. Looks like they fired two people over this, pretty immediately at that. Uncertain if the new CEO was aware of the cover-up until (presumably) contacted for comment by a news org. The fact that the cover-up persisted this long is bad, but on the other hand the Kalanick-era Uber probably would've gone to war with the journalists breaking the stories rather than admit fault, so there's that.

starik36 9y ago

I propose a new law, similar to Godwin's. "As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Trump approaches 1"

knowThySelfx 9y ago
You can't say anything approaching positive about Trump. You will be down voted. The vehement supporters of freedom of speech doesn't support this. Well, the irony.
- Barrin92 9y ago
  the daily reminder that freedom of speech does not imply that anybody has to like what you have to say
  - knowThySelfx 9y ago
    That is exactly my point ;) The irony is lost. User starik36's comment was in a downvoted state. Which is what prompted me to write that comment. I didn't think what he said deemed a down vote because from general observation what he stated seems true.
    - clhodapp 9y ago
      There isn't any irony. Freedom of speech is about preventing government censorship of citizens and has absolutely nothing to do with shielding people from the social consequences of saying unpopular things. It's about being legally allowed to say unpopular things, not about stopping people from disliking what you say.
      - knowThySelfx 9y ago
        I agree. That's all I meant too. Stating the obvious - As in, if you say anything in support of this Trump fellow, you will be down voted. And this is true as exemplified by the "down votes".

Justin_K 9y ago

No substance post, seeking the political low hanging fruit. Looks like the new crowd here loves it, giving you plenty of up votes.

plandis 9y ago
What part exactly do you disagree with?
angersock 9y ago
The post is correct though in its analogy.