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Being Multi-Cloud with Cloudflare

64 points by mjlee 9y ago

victor106 9y ago
This reads more of an advert for Cloudflare (we use it and live it) very little info on HOW they used Cloudflare to solve their problem. One of the best cloud agnostic platforms is CloudFoundry. It has so many capabilities it’s mind blowing
- jtokoph 9y ago
  It seems like they wanted to do their own post without duplicating the content in the Cloudflare blog post. There are more details in the post linked at the bottom: https://blog.cloudflare.com/living-in-a-multi-cloud-world/ https://blog.cloudflare.com/living-in-a-multi-cloud-world/
  - deleted 9y ago
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  - lostpixel 9y ago
    Nice spot, we have moved the link up to the top of the post such that people can jump directly to the CF blog link.
- mjlee 9y ago
  Thanks for the feedback, this is our first foray into technical blog content. We certainly have a bunch of deeper technical articles on the horizon! I'll take a close look at CloudFoundry, thanks for the tip.
manigandham 9y ago
This is just global load balancing (via reverse proxy vs other methods). Actually architecting and running your app in multiple clouds is the hard part.
- user5994461 9y ago
  Architecturing and running in multiple clouds is easy, it's exactly the same as supporting multiple datacenters and that's not something new or ground breaking. The only challenging part is the database access. Except cassandra, there isn't anything common or free that can take writes from multiple data centers simultaneously.
  - kronin 9y ago
    Riak Enterprise supports multiple data centers. Bet365 has, or is in the process, of purchasing all of Basho's IP, and plans are to open source the Enterprise bits[1]. Not sure if Riak is considered common, and the multi DC is not yet free. http://www.computerweekly.com/news/450426130/Riak-NoSQL-snapped-up-by-bet365 http://www.computerweekly.com/news/450426130/Riak-NoSQL-snap...
    - user5994461 9y ago
      Riak was included in the non free. I always mean free as in no money, not as freedom.
      - kronin 9y ago
        Multi data center was restricted to Riak Enterprise and required a paid contract. That's what I was referring to, as your comment was talking about data stores that supported multi-region or multi-cloud.
        user5994461 9y ago
        Forgot to say. I am familiar with Riak. Worked at one of the competitors of the company who acquired them. I really hope that the Entreprise version will be open sourced and will be happy to add it to the list of multi cloud options. At the moment, I can't do it in good faith since it's not gonna be released any time soon, and it's impossible to procure now that the vendor is bankrupt.
  - 9y ago
fake-name 9y ago
> Being Multi Butt with Buttflare I recently reinstalled cloud-to-butt, and it's so amazingly on point for most tech news. > A few months ago at Buttflare’s Internet Summit, we hosted a discussion on A Butt Without Handcuffs with Joe Beda, one of the creators of Kubernetes
- huangbong 9y ago
  I laughed
PacketPaul 9y ago
Reads like an advertisement for Cloudflare with minimal actionable info ... except buy Cloudflare.
krallja 9y ago
You’re not multi cloud anymore, though. Cloudflare is now your single provider.
- lostpixel 9y ago
  This is an interesting point, and I think one that anyone considering this approach should consider. The way we segregate multi-cloud is the delivery of primarily our front-end app. Depending on if you are in an EU or US region you will be redirect to an API instance and then have direct connectivity of that API, this is mainly due to regulatory requirements. As a 2nd data point check-out https://www.backplane.io/ https://www.backplane.io/ - from Blake Mizeranyt the (former) technical lead of etcd
tpetry 9y ago
Adding multiple cloud providers to be resistant on a global outage of one cloud provider and then adding a SPOF by cloudflare loadbalancing is one of the least intelligent ideas i heard this week.
- mjlee 9y ago
  Hi, I helped write this post. We could have been more clear in the post but the availability gain here is focussed on internal tasks. As an example, we retry failed payments on a user defined schedule - we'd like to be able to do that from anywhere we choose. Keeping these background processes going matters, and that's what we've worked hard to ensure we can achieve.

64 points by mjlee 9y ago

This reads more of an advert for Cloudflare (we use it and live it) very little info on HOW they used Cloudflare to solve their problem. One of the best cloud agnostic platforms is CloudFoundry. It has so many capabilities it’s mind blowing

jtokoph 9y ago
It seems like they wanted to do their own post without duplicating the content in the Cloudflare blog post. There are more details in the post linked at the bottom: https://blog.cloudflare.com/living-in-a-multi-cloud-world/ https://blog.cloudflare.com/living-in-a-multi-cloud-world/
- deleted 9y ago
  [deleted]
- lostpixel 9y ago
  Nice spot, we have moved the link up to the top of the post such that people can jump directly to the CF blog link.
mjlee 9y ago
Thanks for the feedback, this is our first foray into technical blog content. We certainly have a bunch of deeper technical articles on the horizon! I'll take a close look at CloudFoundry, thanks for the tip.

manigandham 9y ago

This is just global load balancing (via reverse proxy vs other methods). Actually architecting and running your app in multiple clouds is the hard part.

user5994461 9y ago
Architecturing and running in multiple clouds is easy, it's exactly the same as supporting multiple datacenters and that's not something new or ground breaking. The only challenging part is the database access. Except cassandra, there isn't anything common or free that can take writes from multiple data centers simultaneously.
- kronin 9y ago
  Riak Enterprise supports multiple data centers. Bet365 has, or is in the process, of purchasing all of Basho's IP, and plans are to open source the Enterprise bits[1]. Not sure if Riak is considered common, and the multi DC is not yet free. http://www.computerweekly.com/news/450426130/Riak-NoSQL-snapped-up-by-bet365 http://www.computerweekly.com/news/450426130/Riak-NoSQL-snap...
  - user5994461 9y ago
    Riak was included in the non free. I always mean free as in no money, not as freedom.
    - kronin 9y ago
      Multi data center was restricted to Riak Enterprise and required a paid contract. That's what I was referring to, as your comment was talking about data stores that supported multi-region or multi-cloud.
      - user5994461 9y ago
        Forgot to say. I am familiar with Riak. Worked at one of the competitors of the company who acquired them. I really hope that the Entreprise version will be open sourced and will be happy to add it to the list of multi cloud options. At the moment, I can't do it in good faith since it's not gonna be released any time soon, and it's impossible to procure now that the vendor is bankrupt.
- 9y ago

fake-name 9y ago

> Being Multi Butt with Buttflare I recently reinstalled cloud-to-butt, and it's so amazingly on point for most tech news. > A few months ago at Buttflare’s Internet Summit, we hosted a discussion on A Butt Without Handcuffs with Joe Beda, one of the creators of Kubernetes

huangbong 9y ago
I laughed

PacketPaul 9y ago

Reads like an advertisement for Cloudflare with minimal actionable info ... except buy Cloudflare.

krallja 9y ago

You’re not multi cloud anymore, though. Cloudflare is now your single provider.

lostpixel 9y ago
This is an interesting point, and I think one that anyone considering this approach should consider. The way we segregate multi-cloud is the delivery of primarily our front-end app. Depending on if you are in an EU or US region you will be redirect to an API instance and then have direct connectivity of that API, this is mainly due to regulatory requirements. As a 2nd data point check-out https://www.backplane.io/ https://www.backplane.io/ - from Blake Mizeranyt the (former) technical lead of etcd

tpetry 9y ago

Adding multiple cloud providers to be resistant on a global outage of one cloud provider and then adding a SPOF by cloudflare loadbalancing is one of the least intelligent ideas i heard this week.

mjlee 9y ago
Hi, I helped write this post. We could have been more clear in the post but the availability gain here is focussed on internal tasks. As an example, we retry failed payments on a user defined schedule - we'd like to be able to do that from anywhere we choose. Keeping these background processes going matters, and that's what we've worked hard to ensure we can achieve.