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illegals dont have SSNs. EMployers have to run ssn verification before they hire you. These checks are instant and this will popup immediately. Can they stil

illegals dont have SSNs. EMployers have to run ssn verification before they hire you. These checks are instant and this will popup immediately. Can they still hire you - well maybe for janitorial -> manufacturing jobs I'd say highly unlikely.

smallnamespace 9y ago
This is definitely not the case. E-Verify has existed for a long time, but is still not mandatory [1]. Employers are supposed to have employees fill out an I-9 form that verifies employment eligibility, but the penalties for noncompliance are at most $1,100 per form -- basically slap on the wrist territory [2]. The irony here is that the anti-immigration wing of the Republican party is now in open conflict with the business wing of the party, which benefits heavily from hiring ineligible workers for low wages. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E-Verify#Operations https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E-Verify#Operations [2] https://www.thebalance.com/i-9-form-employment-eligibility-verification-form-1918902 https://www.thebalance.com/i-9-form-employment-eligibility-v...
- ryanmarsh 9y ago
  I've never used E-verify. I just use people's I-9. Everyone I've ever hired was born in the US so I never thought about this.
- stemc43 9y ago
  like literally every job Ive ever applied they've everify on me. im illegal in the past - I know how it works.
djrogers 9y ago
That comment is naive at best - do you really think that the majority of undocumented immigrants in the US can't find jobs? Why else would they be here, and why would their numbers dwindle during times of high unemployment? If you really doubt that illegals can work in manufacturing, try googling for 'immigration bust factory', or similar stories.
- stemc43 9y ago
  nah - depends. some can - some cant. I've seen it both ways. I was able to get a job even when my everify checks came back as ineligible.
gthtjtkt 9y ago
Yup, kinda like how the Speed Limit on the highway is 65 so nobody ever goes faster than that. Oh wait...
sharemywin 9y ago
you don't think they fake documents?
crankylinuxuser 9y ago
That's easy enough. You're right - you do need a valid name/SSN/birthdate. It doesn't have to be yours. And if a company wants to be disreputable, all they need to do is keep running them until they hit jackpot. Because then they can claim that the other people were, uhhh, fraudulent. And this person passed their Everify. It's not like there's any proof that the Everify was run 10 times prior, to find a good name/ssn/DoB.

smallnamespace 9y ago

This is definitely not the case. E-Verify has existed for a long time, but is still not mandatory [1]. Employers are supposed to have employees fill out an I-9 form that verifies employment eligibility, but the penalties for noncompliance are at most $1,100 per form -- basically slap on the wrist territory [2]. The irony here is that the anti-immigration wing of the Republican party is now in open conflict with the business wing of the party, which benefits heavily from hiring ineligible workers for low wages. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E-Verify#Operations https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E-Verify#Operations [2] https://www.thebalance.com/i-9-form-employment-eligibility-verification-form-1918902 https://www.thebalance.com/i-9-form-employment-eligibility-v...

ryanmarsh 9y ago
I've never used E-verify. I just use people's I-9. Everyone I've ever hired was born in the US so I never thought about this.
stemc43 9y ago
like literally every job Ive ever applied they've everify on me. im illegal in the past - I know how it works.

djrogers 9y ago

That comment is naive at best - do you really think that the majority of undocumented immigrants in the US can't find jobs? Why else would they be here, and why would their numbers dwindle during times of high unemployment? If you really doubt that illegals can work in manufacturing, try googling for 'immigration bust factory', or similar stories.

stemc43 9y ago
nah - depends. some can - some cant. I've seen it both ways. I was able to get a job even when my everify checks came back as ineligible.

gthtjtkt 9y ago

Yup, kinda like how the Speed Limit on the highway is 65 so nobody ever goes faster than that. Oh wait...

sharemywin 9y ago

you don't think they fake documents?

crankylinuxuser 9y ago

That's easy enough. You're right - you do need a valid name/SSN/birthdate. It doesn't have to be yours. And if a company wants to be disreputable, all they need to do is keep running them until they hit jackpot. Because then they can claim that the other people were, uhhh, fraudulent. And this person passed their Everify. It's not like there's any proof that the Everify was run 10 times prior, to find a good name/ssn/DoB.