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> when it became known that it was Russian intelligence who procured those emails So the server in question was apparently un-patched for months. Chances are d

> when it became known that it was Russian intelligence who procured those emails So the server in question was apparently un-patched for months. Chances are dozens of third world intelligence agencies had the emails. Is it really plausible that Russia would have its highly trained hackers infiltrate a server and then leave a trail of Russian language metadata on the data? We also saw recently in some of the stuff leaked by Wikileaks that US intelligence agencies have tools for making attacks look like they were state sponsored from one of any number of other agencies (by leaving code comments in the language of that nation). This doesn't add up. Also, if a true political adversary obtained the emails, the most damning way to do it would be to release the worst stories one by one before key campaign events. The troves were too large to be processed in a timely fashion and many of the scandals faded from view almost as soon as they were revealed.

linkregister 9y ago
Podesta's G-Suite account was unpatched? Please review the history of events. The Hillary email server emails were released as part of FOIA actions, and reposted by Wikileaks. The Podesta emails were novel because they had been exfiltrated by the Guccifer 2.0 persona, reasonably attributed to Russian state actors by Crowdstrike.
meowface 9y ago
There are two different things being argued here: is it right for Google to do this, and did Russian intelligence actually interfere in the election. You're trying to re-open a debate into the latter, in which case the discussion of the former is kind of moot. The latter has been discussed and debated ad nauseam in a lot of places and this thread isn't really the appropriate environment. But as someone who works in the infosec industry, I can say yes it is believable GRU would accidentally leave some tracks (NSA has done the same, which were caught by Kaspersky), and that there is far, far more evidence tying Russian intelligence to election interference than merely the DNC and Podesta email breaches. And also that it was more than just the US intelligence agencies and more than just Crowdstrike that came to these conclusions.

linkregister 9y ago

Podesta's G-Suite account was unpatched? Please review the history of events. The Hillary email server emails were released as part of FOIA actions, and reposted by Wikileaks. The Podesta emails were novel because they had been exfiltrated by the Guccifer 2.0 persona, reasonably attributed to Russian state actors by Crowdstrike.

meowface 9y ago

There are two different things being argued here: is it right for Google to do this, and did Russian intelligence actually interfere in the election. You're trying to re-open a debate into the latter, in which case the discussion of the former is kind of moot. The latter has been discussed and debated ad nauseam in a lot of places and this thread isn't really the appropriate environment. But as someone who works in the infosec industry, I can say yes it is believable GRU would accidentally leave some tracks (NSA has done the same, which were caught by Kaspersky), and that there is far, far more evidence tying Russian intelligence to election interference than merely the DNC and Podesta email breaches. And also that it was more than just the US intelligence agencies and more than just Crowdstrike that came to these conclusions.