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In our Western post-Enlightenment society, most of the beneficial aspects of Christian practice were adopted into secular practice. Consider: charity for the ne

by tlb 9y ago

In our Western post-Enlightenment society, most of the beneficial aspects of Christian practice were adopted into secular practice. Consider: charity for the needy, monogamous marriage, burial of the dead, a 7th day of rest. We haven't adopted as many practices from other religions. We eventually (1800s) adopted regular washing from Islam, but adoption was slowed by its taint of foreignness, much to the chagrin of millions of people who died of disease. The stretching aspects of yoga became mainstream within the last 50 years. Meditation and yoga breathing are still exotic. Perhaps some day they won't be, and our descendants will wonder how people from our era stayed sane without daily meditation. The https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Art_of_Living_Foundation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Art_of_Living_Foundation teaches meditation and yoga breathing worldwide, including regular classes in the Bay Area, if you want to try it yourself.

zamalek 9y ago
Another example: if you don't want worms or salmonella, don't eat poorly cooked white meat. No doubt the meat was considered cursed after people consistently fell ill after eating it. When it comes to eastern practices (yoga, meditation and so forth) my bullshit barometer is calibrated much, much higher. I'm far more likely to approach their practices with an open mind. Take spirit guides as an example; while I certainly don't agree that there are spirit guides, it is a religious explanation for the subconscious - your autopilot that guides you through small decisions every day. I can't see why you wouldn't try to wield it to your advantage (obviously with the appropriate care that eastern religions have unwittingly formulated). Even the core of Christianity can be helpful. Life is far less stressful if you are generous in the most insignificant ways. Simple acts like letting traffic enter in front of you, over time, drastically erodes the stress that you feel in those situations. From my perspective, religious texts have at least a few pragmatic observations - even if they lack scientific explanations.
- KozmoNau7 9y ago
  > Even the core of Christianity can be helpful. Life is far less stressful if you are generous in the most insignificant ways. Simple acts like letting traffic enter in front of you, over time, drastically erodes the stress that you feel in those situations. I believe James May (of Top Gear fame) specifically calls this "Christian driving". It's amazing how much more relaxed you are after a drive, if you simply stop thinking of traffic as a race or a competition. You're not going to change your arrival time by any significant amount anyway, so you might as well just relax. In traffic, the only winning move is to not play.
  - zamalek 9y ago
    > thinking of traffic as a race or a competition People behaving like traffic is a race still raises my blood pressure. At the end of the day I still need to get into the toll lane, but I can't because there's 20 cars trying to get back into traffic at 75mph and I'm far too damned courteous to butt in at 60mph. It's far more of a blessing than a curse (I'm getting far more out of my habits), but the downsides do certainly exist. It's not at all consistent, but my behavior is sometimes viral. I'll see the vehicle behind me keeping a generous following distance, or letting someone in. Almost every time that I've tried to resolve a traffic jam in Seattle, the person behind me has caught on - they will keep their distance and keep rolling in order to compensate for the tailgating person in front of me. > competition My favorite competition is to improve the commute of those behind me. There's always the guy who cuts in front of me, forcing me to stop, but there's also always the guy behind me who has caught on. Getting everyone home quickly is a far more interesting, and far less pointless, than the game of trying to beat everyone else home.
    - KozmoNau7 9y ago
      I do my best to keep a decent following distance, and try to match the average speed of traffic in rush hour. Sure, some people will merge in front of me, but there's usually enough buffer space that I don't have to adjust my speed by a lot. And when traffic inevitably clumps up, I slack off the speed a little instead of having to brake. I've notice that some people are perfectly happy to stay behind me and match my speed, to avoid stop-and-go. I also try to position myself to make my merging intentions clear. I try to find a reasonable space to match speed and merge in, instead of trying to force myself in front. If traffic is completely blocked up, I will drive closer to the car in front if it's necessary to encourage a proper zipper merge. I sometimes see people getting really pissed off at that, usually the people who seem to be glued to the rear bumper of the car in front of them. The basic rule I adhere to is that whoever's front bumper is the furthest forward gets to merge in front. It should be so self-evident and obvious, put people just don't want to let other people "win".
    - Fnoord 9y ago
      > People behaving like traffic is a race still raises my blood pressure. The same tricks from mindfulness and meditation can aid here: don't judge, have compassion, focus on breathing, acceptance (of thoughts and feelings including negative ones such as anger) and relaxation shall follow. My favorite competition in traffic is to have the least amount of anger (or other negative emotions). If someone else is angry, don't let them influence you; stay calm and rational instead. I also find a good way to reduce stress is making sure you don't resort to last minute stuff like having to rely on a green light, not taking into account regular traffic jams, having tight appointments or an overburdened agenda, or arriving at the train station 30 seconds before the train departs. Instead, one's schedule should take into account minor delays. If there's a massive traffic accident you might get delayed but that is both rare and reasonable. If everyone would follow this advice, we'd all have a much more pleasant traffic experience.
brango 9y ago
> Meditation and yoga breathing are still exotic. Perhaps some day they won't be, and our descendants will wonder how people from our era stayed sane without daily meditation. Yes! Energy can be experienced very simply after perhaps just 30 minutes of practice (for some - everyone's different). An excellent, clear introduction is "Energy Work" by Robert Bruce. Read with an open mind and practice. Just because you haven't experienced something, don't discount it. The dangerous aspect of religion for me is blind faith. If you view religious claims as hypotheses that can be personally verified, you become a scientist. Yoga is such a scientific system. Kriya yoga is a good place to start, although at some level all of Patanjali's 8 limbs can increase the chance of experiencing the ultimate goal - enlightenment. Today, most people think yoga = stretching. That's just the preparation.

by tlb 9y ago

zamalek 9y ago

Another example: if you don't want worms or salmonella, don't eat poorly cooked white meat. No doubt the meat was considered cursed after people consistently fell ill after eating it. When it comes to eastern practices (yoga, meditation and so forth) my bullshit barometer is calibrated much, much higher. I'm far more likely to approach their practices with an open mind. Take spirit guides as an example; while I certainly don't agree that there are spirit guides, it is a religious explanation for the subconscious - your autopilot that guides you through small decisions every day. I can't see why you wouldn't try to wield it to your advantage (obviously with the appropriate care that eastern religions have unwittingly formulated). Even the core of Christianity can be helpful. Life is far less stressful if you are generous in the most insignificant ways. Simple acts like letting traffic enter in front of you, over time, drastically erodes the stress that you feel in those situations. From my perspective, religious texts have at least a few pragmatic observations - even if they lack scientific explanations.

KozmoNau7 9y ago
> Even the core of Christianity can be helpful. Life is far less stressful if you are generous in the most insignificant ways. Simple acts like letting traffic enter in front of you, over time, drastically erodes the stress that you feel in those situations. I believe James May (of Top Gear fame) specifically calls this "Christian driving". It's amazing how much more relaxed you are after a drive, if you simply stop thinking of traffic as a race or a competition. You're not going to change your arrival time by any significant amount anyway, so you might as well just relax. In traffic, the only winning move is to not play.
- zamalek 9y ago
  > thinking of traffic as a race or a competition People behaving like traffic is a race still raises my blood pressure. At the end of the day I still need to get into the toll lane, but I can't because there's 20 cars trying to get back into traffic at 75mph and I'm far too damned courteous to butt in at 60mph. It's far more of a blessing than a curse (I'm getting far more out of my habits), but the downsides do certainly exist. It's not at all consistent, but my behavior is sometimes viral. I'll see the vehicle behind me keeping a generous following distance, or letting someone in. Almost every time that I've tried to resolve a traffic jam in Seattle, the person behind me has caught on - they will keep their distance and keep rolling in order to compensate for the tailgating person in front of me. > competition My favorite competition is to improve the commute of those behind me. There's always the guy who cuts in front of me, forcing me to stop, but there's also always the guy behind me who has caught on. Getting everyone home quickly is a far more interesting, and far less pointless, than the game of trying to beat everyone else home.
  - KozmoNau7 9y ago
    I do my best to keep a decent following distance, and try to match the average speed of traffic in rush hour. Sure, some people will merge in front of me, but there's usually enough buffer space that I don't have to adjust my speed by a lot. And when traffic inevitably clumps up, I slack off the speed a little instead of having to brake. I've notice that some people are perfectly happy to stay behind me and match my speed, to avoid stop-and-go. I also try to position myself to make my merging intentions clear. I try to find a reasonable space to match speed and merge in, instead of trying to force myself in front. If traffic is completely blocked up, I will drive closer to the car in front if it's necessary to encourage a proper zipper merge. I sometimes see people getting really pissed off at that, usually the people who seem to be glued to the rear bumper of the car in front of them. The basic rule I adhere to is that whoever's front bumper is the furthest forward gets to merge in front. It should be so self-evident and obvious, put people just don't want to let other people "win".
  - Fnoord 9y ago
    > People behaving like traffic is a race still raises my blood pressure. The same tricks from mindfulness and meditation can aid here: don't judge, have compassion, focus on breathing, acceptance (of thoughts and feelings including negative ones such as anger) and relaxation shall follow. My favorite competition in traffic is to have the least amount of anger (or other negative emotions). If someone else is angry, don't let them influence you; stay calm and rational instead. I also find a good way to reduce stress is making sure you don't resort to last minute stuff like having to rely on a green light, not taking into account regular traffic jams, having tight appointments or an overburdened agenda, or arriving at the train station 30 seconds before the train departs. Instead, one's schedule should take into account minor delays. If there's a massive traffic accident you might get delayed but that is both rare and reasonable. If everyone would follow this advice, we'd all have a much more pleasant traffic experience.

brango 9y ago

> Meditation and yoga breathing are still exotic. Perhaps some day they won't be, and our descendants will wonder how people from our era stayed sane without daily meditation. Yes! Energy can be experienced very simply after perhaps just 30 minutes of practice (for some - everyone's different). An excellent, clear introduction is "Energy Work" by Robert Bruce. Read with an open mind and practice. Just because you haven't experienced something, don't discount it. The dangerous aspect of religion for me is blind faith. If you view religious claims as hypotheses that can be personally verified, you become a scientist. Yoga is such a scientific system. Kriya yoga is a good place to start, although at some level all of Patanjali's 8 limbs can increase the chance of experiencing the ultimate goal - enlightenment. Today, most people think yoga = stretching. That's just the preparation.