Your examples don't portray someone aware of the collapse of a civilization it portrays someone aware of the lack of roman authority. That is in no shape or for

Your examples don't portray someone aware of the collapse of a civilization it portrays someone aware of the lack of roman authority. That is in no shape or form the same. And no I don't have any examples handy that I can point to right now, but I am sure there are plenty if you dig a little.