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I made the decision a few years ago to never work in silicon valley or california. it costs WAY to much to live there and the social/political landscape gives

I made the decision a few years ago to never work in silicon valley or california. it costs WAY to much to live there and the social/political landscape gives off the impression of being some kind of authoritarian dystopia falsely touting itself as some kind of social utopia. not really interested in all that noise.

cgore 9y ago
It's mostly the political atmosphere for me.
conanbatt 9y ago
I assure you that the main reason california doesnt get twice its population is because of the highly regulated real estate controls. You could build 500,000 units in one year and you would barely make a dent to the states rental rates, let alone bring them down to more reasonable levels.
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aantix 9y ago
That's too bad. Do you love to program? I don't think people quite get how engineering centric SF/The Valley is. There is a meetup for everything and every third person you run into is an engineer. It's truly a programmers paradise. And no where else do you have the salary leverage that you do in SV. If you have an amazing background with a couple of niche languages, and the right startup comes along that needs engineers with your skillset yesterday, you can manage a homerun salary deal. The engineer is king in SF. I lived there for five years. And will never regret that time. P.S. You can still manage good deals on housing in less trendy areas. Hire a professional relocation assistant. Monica McGee does freelance and corporate relocation. Money well spent and she helped my wife and I land a great deals on a couple of locations.
- jordanb 9y ago
  I love to program and I go to lots of meetups here in Chicago, but I also have a lot of friends who are not techies and I have conversations with people all the time that don't revolve around apps or frameworks.
- ryanx435 9y ago
  this sounds terrible. "hire someone to find you a place that you can afford because there are no affordable places" "if you luckily have the specific skill some random startup wants, you can make a "homerun salary deal", which you will need because living expenses are terrible, otherwise you are shit out of luck"

cgore 9y ago

It's mostly the political atmosphere for me.

conanbatt 9y ago

I assure you that the main reason california doesnt get twice its population is because of the highly regulated real estate controls. You could build 500,000 units in one year and you would barely make a dent to the states rental rates, let alone bring them down to more reasonable levels.

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aantix 9y ago

That's too bad. Do you love to program? I don't think people quite get how engineering centric SF/The Valley is. There is a meetup for everything and every third person you run into is an engineer. It's truly a programmers paradise. And no where else do you have the salary leverage that you do in SV. If you have an amazing background with a couple of niche languages, and the right startup comes along that needs engineers with your skillset yesterday, you can manage a homerun salary deal. The engineer is king in SF. I lived there for five years. And will never regret that time. P.S. You can still manage good deals on housing in less trendy areas. Hire a professional relocation assistant. Monica McGee does freelance and corporate relocation. Money well spent and she helped my wife and I land a great deals on a couple of locations.

jordanb 9y ago
I love to program and I go to lots of meetups here in Chicago, but I also have a lot of friends who are not techies and I have conversations with people all the time that don't revolve around apps or frameworks.
ryanx435 9y ago
this sounds terrible. "hire someone to find you a place that you can afford because there are no affordable places" "if you luckily have the specific skill some random startup wants, you can make a "homerun salary deal", which you will need because living expenses are terrible, otherwise you are shit out of luck"