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" so I started doing 1.5x and 1.7x up to 2x. What's amazing is how quickly you adapt..." Listen to folks using screen readers reading off menus and navigation

" so I started doing 1.5x and 1.7x up to 2x. What's amazing is how quickly you adapt..." Listen to folks using screen readers reading off menus and navigation and such. Those users adapt to stuff going much much faster than 2x!

qznc 9y ago
I onced listened in and got nothing. Found a claims of 300 words per minute [0] and 450 wpm [1], where normal speech is 150 wpm. So, 3x should be achievable with some training. [0] https://webaim.org/techniques/screenreader/ https://webaim.org/techniques/screenreader/ [1] https://www.vincit.fi/en/blog/software-development-450-words-per-minute/ https://www.vincit.fi/en/blog/software-development-450-words...
- kthejoker2 9y ago
  I used to use one of those speed reader apps. I found that if I set it at ridiculous speed - 10,000 wpm! - you can still read the words but not really "read" anything i.e. be able to say anything intelligent about what you just "read." But then I would shift back to 4,000 wpm and suddenly it seemed so easy to keep pace. And the longer you stayed at 10,000 wpm the easier 4,000 became. I feel our brains are totally up the challenge.
- burke 9y ago
  I've listened to a number of fiction audiobooks at 3x. I find it takes a couple of minutes to adapt to a new narrator/speaker at 3x, but it's not really a big thing. I'm not sure I'd retain much from a technical conversation at 3x -- for me the drop seems to be somewhere between 2x and 3x.
  - emodendroket 9y ago
    I read a lot and my pace naturally slows down or speeds up depending on the density and difficulty of the material; I'm sure a similar effect must apply to the speeds you need to follow a lecture or podcast at to actually understand it. I can't read a book-length classical epic poem or a dense technical book at the same kind of speed I can comfortably read a Sherlock Holmes book (well, I can, but I won't retain anything).
rconti 9y ago
Yeah, I have a few blind friends and the screen readers are just insanely fast. I got to the point where I could understand most of what one said at max speed; granted this was back in the late 90s so the voice tech wasn't what it is today.
dredmorbius 9y ago
Screenreaders are very redundant. It's one thing to listen to a very consistent voice repeating very much familiar material. Another to have novel or complex material thrown at you. My listening speeds range from 1x to 2x, for the most part. If I'm focused on material, 1.5x is almost always listenable. If I'm highly focused, or the speaker is slow and boring, 2x+. If the material is difficult or the speaker exceedingly good, intelligent, and the material well-prepared, 1x - 1.25x works quite well.

qznc 9y ago

I onced listened in and got nothing. Found a claims of 300 words per minute [0] and 450 wpm [1], where normal speech is 150 wpm. So, 3x should be achievable with some training. [0] https://webaim.org/techniques/screenreader/ https://webaim.org/techniques/screenreader/ [1] https://www.vincit.fi/en/blog/software-development-450-words-per-minute/ https://www.vincit.fi/en/blog/software-development-450-words...

kthejoker2 9y ago
I used to use one of those speed reader apps. I found that if I set it at ridiculous speed - 10,000 wpm! - you can still read the words but not really "read" anything i.e. be able to say anything intelligent about what you just "read." But then I would shift back to 4,000 wpm and suddenly it seemed so easy to keep pace. And the longer you stayed at 10,000 wpm the easier 4,000 became. I feel our brains are totally up the challenge.
burke 9y ago
I've listened to a number of fiction audiobooks at 3x. I find it takes a couple of minutes to adapt to a new narrator/speaker at 3x, but it's not really a big thing. I'm not sure I'd retain much from a technical conversation at 3x -- for me the drop seems to be somewhere between 2x and 3x.
- emodendroket 9y ago
  I read a lot and my pace naturally slows down or speeds up depending on the density and difficulty of the material; I'm sure a similar effect must apply to the speeds you need to follow a lecture or podcast at to actually understand it. I can't read a book-length classical epic poem or a dense technical book at the same kind of speed I can comfortably read a Sherlock Holmes book (well, I can, but I won't retain anything).

rconti 9y ago

Yeah, I have a few blind friends and the screen readers are just insanely fast. I got to the point where I could understand most of what one said at max speed; granted this was back in the late 90s so the voice tech wasn't what it is today.

dredmorbius 9y ago

Screenreaders are very redundant. It's one thing to listen to a very consistent voice repeating very much familiar material. Another to have novel or complex material thrown at you. My listening speeds range from 1x to 2x, for the most part. If I'm focused on material, 1.5x is almost always listenable. If I'm highly focused, or the speaker is slow and boring, 2x+. If the material is difficult or the speaker exceedingly good, intelligent, and the material well-prepared, 1x - 1.25x works quite well.