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It is strange that the article contains a lot about the Mycenaean 'collapse' but does not mention that this was part of a general collapse of all the states in
by Gupie 9y ago
It is strange that the article contains a lot about the Mycenaean 'collapse' but does not mention that this was part of a general collapse of all the states in the eastern Mediterranean:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Late_Bronze_Age_collapse https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Late_Bronze_Age_collapse
- mcguire 9y agoI'm not sure whether that helps or hurts his point about the complexity of the "collapse". The Mycenaeans had a large scale trade empire across large parts of the Mediterranean, from Italy up through the Black Sea. The "collapse" involved other "civilizations", including the Hittites, Assyrians, Babylonians, and Egyptians, all of which were relatively tightly bound by trade and diplomacy. The only commonality, as I understand it, is that between 1400 and 900 BCE, all of that trade and most of the "higher" civilization in those areas disappeared, to eventually be replaced by something different.
- ardit33 9y agoYou are confusing Minoans with Mycenaeans. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minoan_civilization https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minoan_civilization Yes, the Greeks are the descendants of the Mycenaeans, but Minoans were a totally different civilization. Different language, different people. For what we can read, and archeologic findings, the Minoans civilization collapsed and disappeared
- mcguire 9y agoNo, I don't think so. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mycenaean_Greece#Collapse_.28c._1250.E2.80.931100_BC.29 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mycenaean_Greece#Collapse_.28c... The Minoan civilization disappeared (possibly being partially incorporated into the Mycenaeans') about 300 years before the disappearance of Mycenaean culture along with the other late Bronze age hullaballoo. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Late_Bronze_Age_collapse https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Late_Bronze_Age_collapse