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"Public" education in upper-class, predominantly white/Asian neighborhoods, with property taxes funnelling in significant money are hardly "public" in the grand

"Public" education in upper-class, predominantly white/Asian neighborhoods, with property taxes funnelling in significant money are hardly "public" in the grand scheme of things. For example: Stuyvesant is a public high school. But is it actually? There's a 3 hour test you take in order to be admitted. 900 or so kids are admitted. How is this "public?"

VeronicaJJ123 9y ago
> There's a 3 hour test you take in order to be admitted. 900 or so kids are admitted. There is nothing wrong in segregating kids based on their ability. Public universities use tests to take the best kids and this should happen at all levels. A black kid who is smart should not be held back just because he lives in bad neighborhood. He should get into a better school if he can score more.
- kiliantics 9y ago
  The black kid who lived in the bad neighbourhood can't make it into Stuy because they already fell behind by going to their local elementary school. So now what, you want to test 4 year olds to see what school they deserve to be in?
  - VeronicaJJ123 9y ago
    > you want to test 4 year olds to see what school they deserve to be in? Yes. That is how it happens in urban India. Even for nursery admissions schools interview both the kid and parents to see if they have potential.
- icelancer 9y ago
  > A black kid who is smart should not be held back just because he lives in bad neighborhood. He should get into a better school if he can score more. You are right, he should. But he is statistically very much likely not to based on his upbringing and systemic discrimination.
  - VeronicaJJ123 9y ago
    Okay then he should do something else.
morgante 9y ago
In what way does having an entrance exam make a school non-public? Are state universities not actually public because they have admissions standards?
kiliantics 9y ago
Yeah, and very few brown children end up being in that 900, wonder how that is?

VeronicaJJ123 9y ago

> There's a 3 hour test you take in order to be admitted. 900 or so kids are admitted. There is nothing wrong in segregating kids based on their ability. Public universities use tests to take the best kids and this should happen at all levels. A black kid who is smart should not be held back just because he lives in bad neighborhood. He should get into a better school if he can score more.

kiliantics 9y ago
The black kid who lived in the bad neighbourhood can't make it into Stuy because they already fell behind by going to their local elementary school. So now what, you want to test 4 year olds to see what school they deserve to be in?
- VeronicaJJ123 9y ago
  > you want to test 4 year olds to see what school they deserve to be in? Yes. That is how it happens in urban India. Even for nursery admissions schools interview both the kid and parents to see if they have potential.
icelancer 9y ago
> A black kid who is smart should not be held back just because he lives in bad neighborhood. He should get into a better school if he can score more. You are right, he should. But he is statistically very much likely not to based on his upbringing and systemic discrimination.
- VeronicaJJ123 9y ago
  Okay then he should do something else.

morgante 9y ago

In what way does having an entrance exam make a school non-public? Are state universities not actually public because they have admissions standards?

kiliantics 9y ago

Yeah, and very few brown children end up being in that 900, wonder how that is?