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> I know several women in their mid-thirties who adamantly refuse to consider long term partnership with perceived low status males (along lines of status, powe

> I know several women in their mid-thirties who adamantly refuse to consider long term partnership with perceived low status males (along lines of status, power, wealth and education). Lowering standards aside, this attitude alone would be off-putting for most men, high-status ones especially. What do they bring to the table? Certainly humility isn't one of them.

dwaltrip 9y ago
Parent is using blunt language to communicate economically, don't read into it too much. The women displaying such mate selection patterns could easily be friendly, sociable, and well-liked.
- burntrelish1273 9y ago
  LOL. I'm a cis white dude, 39, make ~300k year, skipped grad school, mild child prodigy, am in decent shape and am very tall. From my experience, women in major cities, especially in the U.S., are predominantly jaded, lack (or feign) general life-skills, life-experience, purpose, respect, manners, direction, trustworthiness and reciprocity. To me, the biggest turn-offs (sans personality disorders): materialism, strategic self-/other-sabotage, ignorance, uncoolness, selfishness, infantilism, lack of introspection and autonomous behavior. The hook-up pool for me is virtually all but the dating pool for me is basically zero. Unreasonable, non-reciprocal selfishness compared to value offered (ie sanity, health, intelligence, etc.) isn't worth arguing with. Plus, gold-diggers feel entitled to "their half" in community property states. For dudes looking for life-partners (sans marriage), look at other countries and college towns. If you just want to get laid, pay for it... it's much cheaper and simpler. If you want to make more money, find a decent woman whom is supportive, honest and fun and isn't divorce-oriented, one-side relationship-lazy or has a wandering eye. For dudettes for the same, they ought to sex/relationship tourism or relocate to male-heavy ratio places like the SF Bay Area. For both, don't get married or have kids, except after long-term stability.
  - vfulco 9y ago
    So damn true. You nailed it. And hooking up the way you do pisses women off because they can't get their hooks in you then if you are otherwise satisfied.
  - corporateguy5 9y ago
    I think this might come off as negative to some, but I feel the exact same way. Very successful for my age, and I can easily date women. I am constantly let down by how low quality they are. They might be physically attractive, but beyond that I feel like I am jumping from poor relationship prospect to poor relationship for eternity.
    - notacoward 9y ago
      The common element in all of these relationships is ... ?
- Nomentatus 9y ago
  ...and also extremely reluctant to date men who are shorter than they are. (Yes there are studies here too.) Men aren't better of course, we have other impractical (but evolutionarily significant) biases, needless to say.
psergeant 9y ago
Why would this attitude be off-putting? I’d much rather be selected by someone I knew had high standards.

dwaltrip 9y ago

Parent is using blunt language to communicate economically, don't read into it too much. The women displaying such mate selection patterns could easily be friendly, sociable, and well-liked.

burntrelish1273 9y ago
LOL. I'm a cis white dude, 39, make ~300k year, skipped grad school, mild child prodigy, am in decent shape and am very tall. From my experience, women in major cities, especially in the U.S., are predominantly jaded, lack (or feign) general life-skills, life-experience, purpose, respect, manners, direction, trustworthiness and reciprocity. To me, the biggest turn-offs (sans personality disorders): materialism, strategic self-/other-sabotage, ignorance, uncoolness, selfishness, infantilism, lack of introspection and autonomous behavior. The hook-up pool for me is virtually all but the dating pool for me is basically zero. Unreasonable, non-reciprocal selfishness compared to value offered (ie sanity, health, intelligence, etc.) isn't worth arguing with. Plus, gold-diggers feel entitled to "their half" in community property states. For dudes looking for life-partners (sans marriage), look at other countries and college towns. If you just want to get laid, pay for it... it's much cheaper and simpler. If you want to make more money, find a decent woman whom is supportive, honest and fun and isn't divorce-oriented, one-side relationship-lazy or has a wandering eye. For dudettes for the same, they ought to sex/relationship tourism or relocate to male-heavy ratio places like the SF Bay Area. For both, don't get married or have kids, except after long-term stability.
- vfulco 9y ago
  So damn true. You nailed it. And hooking up the way you do pisses women off because they can't get their hooks in you then if you are otherwise satisfied.
- corporateguy5 9y ago
  I think this might come off as negative to some, but I feel the exact same way. Very successful for my age, and I can easily date women. I am constantly let down by how low quality they are. They might be physically attractive, but beyond that I feel like I am jumping from poor relationship prospect to poor relationship for eternity.
  - notacoward 9y ago
    The common element in all of these relationships is ... ?
Nomentatus 9y ago
...and also extremely reluctant to date men who are shorter than they are. (Yes there are studies here too.) Men aren't better of course, we have other impractical (but evolutionarily significant) biases, needless to say.

psergeant 9y ago

Why would this attitude be off-putting? I’d much rather be selected by someone I knew had high standards.