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Being anti-nuclear is pretty much accepting the status quo though. Modern nuclear power is much, much more sustainable than coal, scales very well, and is very

by nv-vn 9y ago

Being anti-nuclear is pretty much accepting the status quo though. Modern nuclear power is much, much more sustainable than coal, scales very well, and is very safe. If you believe in a quick solution for energy issues then you shouldn't halt all nuclear development and leave fossil fuels for the next couple decades.

nl 9y ago
Being anti-nuclear is pretty much accepting the status quo though. Elon Musk would disagree. If you believe in a quick solution for energy issues then you shouldn't halt all nuclear development and leave fossil fuels for the next couple decades. Nuclear plants take 30 years at least to get through planning and building. Gas fired plants or pump solar can be deployed within a year, Wind + Solar in even less time.
- wiz21c 9y ago
  Also there was an interesting view on (against) nuclear by Naomi Klein : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLRikyCRu54 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLRikyCRu54 I like nuclear, but her view makes a lot of sense to me.
toomuchtodo 9y ago
Nuclear will never be able to compete with renewables on cost or deployment speed. It’s dead tech for anything other than space probes and military uses.
- nv-vn 9y ago
  How? Nuclear tech is already much more developed than other renewables and it's incredibly efficient. The cost of solar is much higher than the cost of nuclear. Hydroelectric and wind are both lower, but they also require certain geography and can't be used anywhere. Nuclear is not dead tech at all, most of France's power comes from nuclear.
  - nl 9y ago
    France is closing at least some its nuclear power stations (and has no plans to build new ones): https://www.reuters.com/article/us-edf-nuclear/france-to-close-some-nuclear-reactors-says-ecology-minister-hulot-idUSKBN1931AD https://www.reuters.com/article/us-edf-nuclear/france-to-clo... (Also, nuclear is not a renewable by an sensible measure)
  - distances 9y ago
    Nuclear is very slow to build in the Western world. Finland is already in their 12th year building Olkiluoto 3

by nv-vn 9y ago

nl 9y ago

Being anti-nuclear is pretty much accepting the status quo though. Elon Musk would disagree. If you believe in a quick solution for energy issues then you shouldn't halt all nuclear development and leave fossil fuels for the next couple decades. Nuclear plants take 30 years at least to get through planning and building. Gas fired plants or pump solar can be deployed within a year, Wind + Solar in even less time.

wiz21c 9y ago
Also there was an interesting view on (against) nuclear by Naomi Klein : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLRikyCRu54 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLRikyCRu54 I like nuclear, but her view makes a lot of sense to me.

toomuchtodo 9y ago

Nuclear will never be able to compete with renewables on cost or deployment speed. It’s dead tech for anything other than space probes and military uses.

nv-vn 9y ago
How? Nuclear tech is already much more developed than other renewables and it's incredibly efficient. The cost of solar is much higher than the cost of nuclear. Hydroelectric and wind are both lower, but they also require certain geography and can't be used anywhere. Nuclear is not dead tech at all, most of France's power comes from nuclear.
- nl 9y ago
  France is closing at least some its nuclear power stations (and has no plans to build new ones): https://www.reuters.com/article/us-edf-nuclear/france-to-close-some-nuclear-reactors-says-ecology-minister-hulot-idUSKBN1931AD https://www.reuters.com/article/us-edf-nuclear/france-to-clo... (Also, nuclear is not a renewable by an sensible measure)
- distances 9y ago
  Nuclear is very slow to build in the Western world. Finland is already in their 12th year building Olkiluoto 3