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Says protecting community is more important.... > "Protecting our community is more important than maximising our profits,” Mr Zuckerberg said then goes out a
by justboxing 9y ago
Says protecting community is more important....
> "Protecting our community is more important than maximising our profits,” Mr Zuckerberg said
then goes out and sues said community, build walls to keep the community at bay
> In the past year alone, the 32-year-old billionaire spent $30 million to buy up the four homes surrounding his Palo Alto abode, only to demolish them, and later built a six-foot-tall wall around his 700-acre plot of land in Hawaii, to the chagrin of his Kilauean neighbors.
Source: Man Of The People Mark Zuckerberg Sues To Keep Native Hawaiians Off His Kauai Estate => https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/01/mark-zuckerberg-sues-to-keep-native-hawaiians-off-his-kauai-estate https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/01/mark-zuckerberg-sues...
- hennsen 9y agoHe has so much power and so much responsibility... he cannot be expexted to care for everyone... </sarcasm>
- danans 9y ago> then goes out and sues said community, build walls to keep the community at bay People who are wealthy and famous like him take these measures because they fear for their family's personal security. As an unknown person who also takes my family's security seriously, it's hard to fault him for that. But that is really unrelated to the concept of "community" on Facebook. One can be quite concerned about social media's negative effect on society (promoting tribalism, othering) while granting that Mark Z has exceptional security needs.
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- jessaustin 9y agoThat might be an excuse for building walls in some residential area on the East Coast. That's not an excuse for restricting the access of indigenous Hawaiians to undeveloped lands of dubious title. Haole is welcome to visit; haole should remember he is a visitor.
- jabretti 9y agoThat sounds pretty fucking racist. Do you also think that Native Europeans should have superior rights to non-Europeans in Europe?
- jessaustin 9y agoI don't think non-Europeans should waltz in and install a totally foreign system of property and governance, and then make a special effort to fuck over those Europeans who still try to maintain a semblance of their former way of life at the margins of the new regime. Greenbean account makes unsupported and projective accusation of racism? I'm shocked!
- danans 9y ago> I don't think non-Europeans should waltz in and install a totally foreign system of property and governance, and then make a special effort to fuck over those Europeans who still try to maintain a semblance of their former way of life at the margins of the new regime. These are quite extraordinary and inflammatory claims to be made without significant evidence. Edit: I see you have created a strawman by combining the GPs post about Europe with the Hawaii zuckerberg situation. Edit 2: and despite the fear mongering of the cultural far right in Europe (and the US) neither is any situation like the native Hawaiians via a vis Zuckerberg.
- jessaustin 9y agoZuck is no Claus Spreckels, Lorrin Thurston, or John L. Stevens (do I really have to review the history for you?), but he didn't have to hire those lawyers to invent that novel abuse of the courts. An abuse, incidentally, that is an option for rich haole assholes and not for the average native Hawaiian. This "rich people must take every unethical-but-legal advantage they can, otherwise the sky will fall" idea would embarrass a decent person. [EDIT:] That's how threaded discussion works. Greenbean responded to me, then I responded to him. Your misunderstanding stemmed from the fact that like many who would maintain racist advantages, you've forgotten that the past is still with us.
- ryandrake 9y agoI find it utterly hilarious that Mark Zuckerberg is concerned about his own privacy given the product he’s unleashed upon the world. Hypocrisy doesn’t begin to describe it.
- danans 9y agoI agree, but physical security and privacy, while related, are different. And physical security measures are different when someone's wealth puts a big target on their back.
- Density 9y agoThis is ridiculous. The wealthy don't have big targets on their back.
- SamReidHughes 9y agoZuck has a Facebook account, doesn't he? Where's the hypocrisy?
- gaius 9y agoThere's a photo of Zuck is his office doing the rounds, but if you zoom in he's taped up his laptop camera and even microphone...
- SamReidHughes 9y agoSo what? Facebook isn't listening on your laptop mic or camera.
- jimnotgym 9y ago> People who are wealthy and famous like him take these measures because they fear for their family's personal security. Whereas poor people are totally cavalier about their security? I think this is nothing more than a guy so rich that he can afford to do things that put his own privacy ahead of the rest of the community. This is that common delusion that the super rich have. They think they are super rich because they are special, and so need protection. The truth being that they are super rich because they work as hard as the top 50% but were insanely lucky. I'm starting to really dislike the Zuck
- danans 9y agoI agree in large part with your characterization of the super wealthy being that way in no small part because of luck and privilege. That doesn't invalidate the idea that Mark Z's wealth and fame change his personal security risk profile compared to someone who is neither wealthy or famous. The injustice is that because of the societal wealth disparity, the poorer you are, the less security you can afford.
- rhizome 9y agoNote that Zuck isn't using his money to reduce the need for the security he's implementing.
- abiox 9y ago> using his money to reduce the need for the security he's implementing how would that be accomplished? ostensibly, the money's existence is what creates that need. perhaps you mean he should give it all away?
- rhizome 9y agohow would that be accomplished? I don't know, but I'm sure money helps to accomplish it.
- danans 9y ago
- cuspycode 9y agoSince Facebook users are the company's products rather than their customers, I wonder what Zuckerberg means when he uses the term "our community"?
- abiox 9y agoi don't think that "product" and "customer" are exclusive notions, nor that "community" would only apply to just one of those notions.
- tomjen3 9y agoIt was a long time ago that ones community was necessarily the one you physically lived it. I have more in common with you, though we probably live about half a world away, than I do with my neighbor.
- tryingagainbro 9y agoI don't understand your point at all: he bought the 4 homes, what he does with them isn't your business or mine. Why shouldn't he build a wall around his property, it's his and if he likes privacy so be it. With the wall he can walk freely in his property.
- vim_wannabe 9y agoIt is always interesting to think why the people living in gated communities are against border control.
- rndmwlk 9y agoKind of seems like a non-sequitur. The quote is clearly in context of Facebook as the CEO, whereas his actions are on his own private land as a citizen. Or are you suggesting walling off that land is maximizing his profits? That said, Mark Zuckerberg is an asshole and I don't believe that quote for a second.