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And DRM is necessary to AMD’s bottom line because...?

by kobeya 9y ago

jandrese 9y ago
People won't buy AMD chips if they can't play Blu-rays or Netflix or use commercial software? It's not a thing today, but it's not hard seeing the world go that way in the future once the legacy BIOS uses are finally aged out.
- kobeya 9y ago
  Blu-rays and Netflix work just fine on my old laptop that doesn't support secure enclaves. The onus is on us to make sure that a future where we are locked out of the devices we own does not come to pass.
  - wolfgke 9y ago
    > Blu-rays and Netflix work just fine on my old laptop that doesn't support secure enclaves. 4k Bluray requires Kaby Lake or newer (I don't know whether it works on Ryzen or not) and HDMI 2.0a with HDCP 2.2.
    - Freak_NL 9y ago
      We're not even getting anything over 720p on Linux. 1080p requires Internet Explorer, Edge, or Safari on Windows or MacOS¹. 4k in the webapp requires Edge in addition to the hardware requirements wolfgke lists. 1: https://help.netflix.com/en/node/23742 https://help.netflix.com/en/node/23742
    - deniska 9y ago
      * Laughs in pirate
    - anthk 9y ago
      Hah, and people still calling me a pirate for watching 4K MKV movies... under a SandyBridge.
  - monocasa 9y ago
    PSP is different than secure enclaves.
    - johncolanduoni 9y ago
      This is my biggest frustration with all of this stuff. Every hardware feature with a word like "security" in it is now tantamount to a new Intel ME or "trusted path" implementation.
      - yuhong 9y ago
        My favorite is how PSP is confused with DASH, the thing that actually does remote management.
    - kobeya 9y ago
      Um, PSP implements a secure enclave capability, so no that’s not correct?
      - monocasa 9y ago
        Secure Enclaves on AMD and Intel typically refers to SME/SEV and SGX.
- dingo_bat 9y ago
  > It's not a thing today, but it's not hard seeing the world go that way in the future once the legacy BIOS uses are finally aged out. Agreed. Just look at the root situation in android. Banking apps, netflix and even snapchat won't work on a rooted phone. It's absolutely bullshit, but it's normal now. Same can and will happen for PCs.

And DRM is necessary to AMD’s bottom line because...?

by kobeya 9y ago

And DRM is necessary to AMD’s bottom line because...?

People won't buy AMD chips if they can't play Blu-rays or Netflix or use commercial software? It's not a thing today, but it's not hard seeing the world go that way in the future once the legacy BIOS uses are finally aged out.

kobeya 9y ago
Blu-rays and Netflix work just fine on my old laptop that doesn't support secure enclaves. The onus is on us to make sure that a future where we are locked out of the devices we own does not come to pass.
- wolfgke 9y ago
  > Blu-rays and Netflix work just fine on my old laptop that doesn't support secure enclaves. 4k Bluray requires Kaby Lake or newer (I don't know whether it works on Ryzen or not) and HDMI 2.0a with HDCP 2.2.
  - Freak_NL 9y ago
    We're not even getting anything over 720p on Linux. 1080p requires Internet Explorer, Edge, or Safari on Windows or MacOS¹. 4k in the webapp requires Edge in addition to the hardware requirements wolfgke lists. 1: https://help.netflix.com/en/node/23742 https://help.netflix.com/en/node/23742
  - deniska 9y ago
    * Laughs in pirate
  - anthk 9y ago
    Hah, and people still calling me a pirate for watching 4K MKV movies... under a SandyBridge.
- monocasa 9y ago
  PSP is different than secure enclaves.
  - johncolanduoni 9y ago
    This is my biggest frustration with all of this stuff. Every hardware feature with a word like "security" in it is now tantamount to a new Intel ME or "trusted path" implementation.
    - yuhong 9y ago
      My favorite is how PSP is confused with DASH, the thing that actually does remote management.
  - kobeya 9y ago
    Um, PSP implements a secure enclave capability, so no that’s not correct?
    - monocasa 9y ago
      Secure Enclaves on AMD and Intel typically refers to SME/SEV and SGX.
dingo_bat 9y ago
> It's not a thing today, but it's not hard seeing the world go that way in the future once the legacy BIOS uses are finally aged out. Agreed. Just look at the root situation in android. Banking apps, netflix and even snapchat won't work on a rooted phone. It's absolutely bullshit, but it's normal now. Same can and will happen for PCs.