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They all timing ticking bomb, since most (all by now) are nuclear reactor propelled. As we all know, if something can break, it will break eventually. Its only

They all timing ticking bomb, since most (all by now) are nuclear reactor propelled. As we all know, if something can break, it will break eventually. Its only a matter of time when one of these creatures sink to the bottom and pressure will take care of the rest, causing world panic due to nuclear material getting released into the ocean.

jackpirate 9y ago
Nine nuclear submarines have already sank: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sunken_nuclear_submarines https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sunken_nuclear_submari... There hasn't been any world panic. There's lots of reasons to dislike the war-machine. (I myself am a former nuclear naval officer turned conscientious objector/pacifist.) But FUD does not help the case against militarism.
- sillysaurus3 9y ago
  I myself am a former nuclear naval officer turned conscientious objector/pacifist. This is tangential, but can I ask about some of your experiences or reasons for that? It sounds interesting. Only curious. Feel free to shoot me an email if you'd like.
  - jackpirate 9y ago
    On my blog, I have a page about the whole process here: https://izbicki.me/blog/my-co-discharge.html https://izbicki.me/blog/my-co-discharge.html If you want something more condensed, here's a news article: http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/23/nyregion/23objector.html?pagewanted=all http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/23/nyregion/23objector.html?p...
    - sillysaurus3 9y ago
      Your AK-47 to serving spoon project is interesting too: https://izbicki.me/blog/turning-an-ak-47-into-a-serving-ladle.html https://izbicki.me/blog/turning-an-ak-47-into-a-serving-ladl...
      - jackpirate 9y ago
        Thanks :) I have another rifle and 4 swords that I want to do something similar with as well. I don't think I could do a very good job with them though. (TBH, I'm a bit disappointed with how the ak-47/ladle turned out.) So I've been looking to find a good artist to donate them to.
WJW 9y ago
Literally the second line of the article states that it is a diesel-electric submarine. There is no nuclear material on board.
- loeg 9y ago
  A diesel sub could carry nuclear warheads, but Argentina acceded to the Non-Proliferation Treaty in 1995 as a non-nuclear weapon state, so this one probably does not.
eropple 9y ago
> They all timing ticking bomb, since most (all by now) are nuclear reactor propelled. When, after posting your comment, you then go to read the article, you will discover that the ARA San Juan is a diesel-electric submarine. It's in the second paragraph. Relatedly, modern diesel submarines that use air-independent propulsion are significantly quieter than nuclear submarines while being cheaper to field, which fills a strategic role more effectively than the nuclear submarines would in replacing them. That the United States fields an all-nuclear submarine fleet does not suggest that the rest of the world does or is going in that direction. (edit: and, further, something like eight or nine nuclear submarines have already sunk and while not trivial problems, they are not the gasping danger you imply.)

jackpirate 9y ago

Nine nuclear submarines have already sank: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sunken_nuclear_submarines https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sunken_nuclear_submari... There hasn't been any world panic. There's lots of reasons to dislike the war-machine. (I myself am a former nuclear naval officer turned conscientious objector/pacifist.) But FUD does not help the case against militarism.

sillysaurus3 9y ago
I myself am a former nuclear naval officer turned conscientious objector/pacifist. This is tangential, but can I ask about some of your experiences or reasons for that? It sounds interesting. Only curious. Feel free to shoot me an email if you'd like.
- jackpirate 9y ago
  On my blog, I have a page about the whole process here: https://izbicki.me/blog/my-co-discharge.html https://izbicki.me/blog/my-co-discharge.html If you want something more condensed, here's a news article: http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/23/nyregion/23objector.html?pagewanted=all http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/23/nyregion/23objector.html?p...
  - sillysaurus3 9y ago
    Your AK-47 to serving spoon project is interesting too: https://izbicki.me/blog/turning-an-ak-47-into-a-serving-ladle.html https://izbicki.me/blog/turning-an-ak-47-into-a-serving-ladl...
    - jackpirate 9y ago
      Thanks :) I have another rifle and 4 swords that I want to do something similar with as well. I don't think I could do a very good job with them though. (TBH, I'm a bit disappointed with how the ak-47/ladle turned out.) So I've been looking to find a good artist to donate them to.

WJW 9y ago

Literally the second line of the article states that it is a diesel-electric submarine. There is no nuclear material on board.

loeg 9y ago
A diesel sub could carry nuclear warheads, but Argentina acceded to the Non-Proliferation Treaty in 1995 as a non-nuclear weapon state, so this one probably does not.

eropple 9y ago

> They all timing ticking bomb, since most (all by now) are nuclear reactor propelled. When, after posting your comment, you then go to read the article, you will discover that the ARA San Juan is a diesel-electric submarine. It's in the second paragraph. Relatedly, modern diesel submarines that use air-independent propulsion are significantly quieter than nuclear submarines while being cheaper to field, which fills a strategic role more effectively than the nuclear submarines would in replacing them. That the United States fields an all-nuclear submarine fleet does not suggest that the rest of the world does or is going in that direction. (edit: and, further, something like eight or nine nuclear submarines have already sunk and while not trivial problems, they are not the gasping danger you imply.)