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You intend to use your phone for a year without installing any security updates? Some people like living dangerously, I guess. For the rest, it's a good thing
by Niten 9y ago
You intend to use your phone for a year without installing any security updates?
Some people like living dangerously, I guess. For the rest, it's a good thing iOS strongly encourages people to keep up to date.
- endemic 9y agoWhat about folks who continue to use older hardware? This is a problem with the manufacturer, that doesn’t backport security fixes to older OS versions.
- jl6 9y agoIt’s a sign that we are still in the software dark ages when security is so poor that a continuous stream of patches is the only way to stay safe.
- pjmlp 9y agoIt will only change when all software vendors become liable for security failures.
- chakalakasp 9y agoSo... what's the alternative? How do you address security vulnerabilities without pushing out a change in the code that patches the vulnerability?
- slig 9y agoIt's also good for Apple's pocket. It's really good for them when people have to buy a new phone just because the old phone is extremely laggy after a mandatory update.
- toomuchtodo 9y agoApple should be legally required to maintain the same level of functionality as before then.
- Crontab 9y agoI don't agree with that but they shouldn't be allowed to stop signing the old versions. People should be able to downgrade if they have a need or desire to do so.
- toomuchtodo 9y agoThere has to be a middle ground. If I want to run iOS 10, I should get a set number of years (3? I'd be happy with 3) Apple will back port security fixes to it instead of being forced to run the dumpster fire that is iOS 11. Simply continuing to sign old versions or make them available isn't enough. Hopefully the EU takes this up, as they’re far more pro consumer than the US.
- krisdol 9y agoI have a 6s and regret upgrading to 11. Slow and unstable. Frankly I don’t do enough sketchy crap on the phone to care about security updates as much as I’m supposed to.
- thunfischbrot 9y agoSketchy crap like checking your mail?
- Niten 9y agoOr like using Wi-Fi, given that iOS 10 will not be patched for the KRACK vulnerability.
- 0xffff2 9y agoIt always amazes me how subjective adjectives like "slow" and "unstable" are when referring to software. I too have a 6s (plus), and iOS 11 has been just as fast and stable as iOS 10 in my experience. This kind of disparity makes a lot of sense in the PC world, where everyone has slightly different hardware. I can't quite figure out why it's still common on a platform where there is relatively no hardware variation.
- JustSomeNobody 9y agoI keep screenshots of battery use in iOS. I went from 10.3.3 to iOS 11 when it was available. Gave it the obligatory 3 days to "stabilize" and was amazed at how crappy it was. Given my usage I was seeing about 4.5 hours Usage at the 50% mark on 10.3.3. On iOS 11 it was down to 3.25 hours. I tried all the Public betas up to 11.2B1. I DFU'd. I set up as new. I ran without my usual assortment of apps and just used the stock ones. I jumped through every single hoop I could and iOS 11 was just a downgrade for me.
- krisdol 9y agoI mean if I had devices side by side of different OSes, I’m confident I could measure it. Time to open applications, like the phone dialer and messages, is noticeably slower than ever before for me. Another issue is that now when I open my recent calls, it shows a cached image of its last state for a few seconds before it refreshes with the most recent state. Unfortunately, in those few seconds, I usually already clicked the contact I wanted to call back, only to see the screen refresh after my click and find out I’m calling someone I did not mean to call. This is the same annoying way that Safari treats the back button, but I’m sad to see that pattern creep into other apps. I’d rather see a loading screen than a false view.
- a254613e 9y agoIt would be a good thing if iOS was stable as it should be. iOS 11 is a buggy mess that I regret updating to. I'd rather miss out on few security updates for a year, than have my phone completely freeze, require reboots, etc quite often - and this isn't even an old phone, it's 7+. And let's be honest, the security issues aren't even that easily exploitable or can be mitigated some other way. I will never again update macOS and iOS until at least few months, and newer fix versions, after release - I've had nothing but problems with both.