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>Forcing every prospective engineer to attend 4 years of formal computer science education isn’t a realistic answer — and ultimately it doesn’t even solve the p

>Forcing every prospective engineer to attend 4 years of formal computer science education isn’t a realistic answer — and ultimately it doesn’t even solve the problem. Formal comp sci education is a foundation, but the application of comp sci to problem solving is a skill that is learned by experience and mentorship. This is the thing that has been killing me and incredibly demoralizing as I've been trying to find a position at a company, along with not having production experience in the specific frameworks that they're looking for. I've started a project from the ground-up with my bare hands that managed to make over $500,000 in crowdfunding, but because I didn't do it in a framework that modern companies want, and because my degrees are in Biology and Psychology rather than Computer Science, even when I've trained myself in the frameworks in question I'm a pariah to hiring managers. I'm seriously beside myself now. I have no idea what avenues I even have left open to me if I want to have a career at this point. The only way I see myself getting a job is going further into debt by going through a bootcamp.

dpweb 9y ago
Maybe reevaluate your resume and interview skills also. There nothing scientific abnout hiring decisions. so much is subconcious.. I like this person. My experience, most hiring managers are not as smart as the programmers that work for them are are not super analytical, they make decisions on instinct. I started on the IT support desk cause I had zero experience with nothing on my resume except an Economics BA and pizza delivery job. Within a year I transitioned into a programming job. My experience is in IT depts of large companies, many have a good attitude with letting you change positions once youve been an employee for a while.
masonhensley 9y ago
Hey Aalleavitch, Sorry about the experience, feel free to email me at either of my emails in my profile if you'd like to bounce some ideas off someone or get some feedback. I think I can empathize with your situation - I've been part of the hiring decision for a number of developers without CS degrees or even college degrees. Best, -Mason

dpweb 9y ago

Maybe reevaluate your resume and interview skills also. There nothing scientific abnout hiring decisions. so much is subconcious.. I like this person. My experience, most hiring managers are not as smart as the programmers that work for them are are not super analytical, they make decisions on instinct. I started on the IT support desk cause I had zero experience with nothing on my resume except an Economics BA and pizza delivery job. Within a year I transitioned into a programming job. My experience is in IT depts of large companies, many have a good attitude with letting you change positions once youve been an employee for a while.

masonhensley 9y ago

Hey Aalleavitch, Sorry about the experience, feel free to email me at either of my emails in my profile if you'd like to bounce some ideas off someone or get some feedback. I think I can empathize with your situation - I've been part of the hiring decision for a number of developers without CS degrees or even college degrees. Best, -Mason