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>If you are not self motivated to constantly evolve you have a problem. Programmers to programmers: You must be a super agile ninja capable of teaching yoursel

>If you are not self motivated to constantly evolve you have a problem. Programmers to programmers: You must be a super agile ninja capable of teaching yourself everything at a moment's notice. Businesses to programmers: Yeah, we still need people doing Java 6 and VB6. We're also going to disregard all of your security and technical debt concerns. We're also going to hire managers who suddenly change a bunch of tech, causing the rest of the team to re-train themselves, harming their career. I still don't get where this need comes from. The world still needs LOB developers. The uber-ninjas haven't solved that problem yet. It isn't going to maximize your lifetime earnings, but you're not likely to retire under $100k either. Programmers are extra-ordinarily hard on themselves and other programmers in industries where businesses still just don't give a fuck because they are making so much. I really wish I knew why you guys did this to us.

amyjess 9y ago
> Programmers to programmers: You must be a super agile ninja capable of teaching yourself everything at a moment's notice. I'd be interested in a demographic breakdown of the people who say this. I'd be willing to bet that most of them are in their twenties, live in SF/SV or Seattle, and/or work at startups or insanely demanding trendsetting companies (e.g. Google, Amazon, Tesla, Apple). In other words, these claims are made by people who care about being "cool". I don't think you'll hear this much from people who live in less trendy areas and work at less trendy companies. Older people and people who work at conservative companies in conservative areas of conservative states (Hi, I work at a B2B telecom in Plano, Texas, and I'm in my 30s) probably aren't going to be making those kinds of claims. If you stop caring about being "cool", you'll find plenty of work that'll sustain you until you retire.
- Terr_ 9y ago
  > > You must be a super agile ninja capable of teaching yourself everything at a moment's notice. I imagine there's also a good helping of: "Hey, the MVP works and I won't be here in years 2-10 maintaining it, so everything I can see indicates I successfully learned X on my own in a month."
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amyjess 9y ago

> Programmers to programmers: You must be a super agile ninja capable of teaching yourself everything at a moment's notice. I'd be interested in a demographic breakdown of the people who say this. I'd be willing to bet that most of them are in their twenties, live in SF/SV or Seattle, and/or work at startups or insanely demanding trendsetting companies (e.g. Google, Amazon, Tesla, Apple). In other words, these claims are made by people who care about being "cool". I don't think you'll hear this much from people who live in less trendy areas and work at less trendy companies. Older people and people who work at conservative companies in conservative areas of conservative states (Hi, I work at a B2B telecom in Plano, Texas, and I'm in my 30s) probably aren't going to be making those kinds of claims. If you stop caring about being "cool", you'll find plenty of work that'll sustain you until you retire.

Terr_ 9y ago
> > You must be a super agile ninja capable of teaching yourself everything at a moment's notice. I imagine there's also a good helping of: "Hey, the MVP works and I won't be here in years 2-10 maintaining it, so everything I can see indicates I successfully learned X on my own in a month."

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