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> First off, the first amendment is specifically with respect to congress, and I don't understand why I have to say this so often. It's also been 'incorporated

> First off, the first amendment is specifically with respect to congress, and I don't understand why I have to say this so often. It's also been 'incorporated' against the states (and their sub-governments like municipalities). But free speech, as a political value, isn't restricted to the U.S. Congress. That may be why you keep repeating something that's mostly irrelevant. Wanting to "escape into pockets of like minded individuals" is pretty much what Reddit is. I can sympathize with the idea that Reddit, or similar sites, should host anything, as long as it's restricted to 'pockets' that accept it. A lot of the worst behavior is basically people from one pocket invading other pockets and posting unacceptable content. I think it'd be great if Reddit provided (more) effective tools for the mods to police that.

fhood 9y ago
About the free speech thing, people should say free speech when they mean free speech and not the first amendment. The first amendment is a specific thing with a specific meaning, and invoking it implies the weight of law. Facebook can censor speech without breaking the law. They might be violating the principle of free speech, but not the first amendment. I agree with you about reddit.
- aeorgnoieang 9y ago
  > About the free speech thing, people should say free speech when they mean free speech and not the first amendment. My bad – I didn't even notice the comment to which you were replying had done this! We might be disappointed tho in so far as "first amendment" comes to mean 'free speech' to too many people. I mourn the loss of precision, and I'm a little afraid of people conflating the two ideas too.
  - grandalf 9y ago
    OK so I was on my phone trying to hastily type out a comment and I got sloppy. I think the intent was still abundantly clear, even though the loss of precision in my choice of words is unfortunate.

fhood 9y ago

About the free speech thing, people should say free speech when they mean free speech and not the first amendment. The first amendment is a specific thing with a specific meaning, and invoking it implies the weight of law. Facebook can censor speech without breaking the law. They might be violating the principle of free speech, but not the first amendment. I agree with you about reddit.

aeorgnoieang 9y ago
> About the free speech thing, people should say free speech when they mean free speech and not the first amendment. My bad – I didn't even notice the comment to which you were replying had done this! We might be disappointed tho in so far as "first amendment" comes to mean 'free speech' to too many people. I mourn the loss of precision, and I'm a little afraid of people conflating the two ideas too.
- grandalf 9y ago
  OK so I was on my phone trying to hastily type out a comment and I got sloppy. I think the intent was still abundantly clear, even though the loss of precision in my choice of words is unfortunate.