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The OP is right that 8 sec 1/4 is extremely impressive, but he is wrong that there are few production cars that can run 8s. No production car runs anything clos

The OP is right that 8 sec 1/4 is extremely impressive, but he is wrong that there are few production cars that can run 8s. No production car runs anything close. The fastest 1/4 mile production cars are supercars such as the Veyron and 918, which are at or just under a 10seconds. Remember, an increase from 20->18 seconds is roughly a 10% increase in acceleration; 10->8 is roughly 20% increase over an already ludicrously fast million-dollar supercar. It's frankly ridiculously fast.

Unklejoe 9y ago
You're right - I can't find any other car that can run 8's without modifications. There are some that can achieve those numbers with under $10,000 worth of modifications, but that's kind of irrelevant since we're talking about stock cars. That's also why I am skeptical of this Tesla running an 8 second pass in stock trim. Is there a video of the pass? Most of the 8 second cars I've seen are running slicks or drag radials, and usually weigh a lot less. I'd be curious to see how Tesla managed to make a car that probably weighs over 4000 pounds have enough traction for those numbers using regular tires. Even with all wheel drive, 8 second Nissan GTRs usually have to resort to slicks.
- grecy 9y ago
  > There are some that can achieve those numbers with under $10,000 worth of modifications Can you provide links? I seriously doubt you can get anything into the 8s with only $10k.
  - Unklejoe 9y ago
    If we're talking about anything, you can build a turbo Gen 4 LSx swapped Foxbody Mustang for very cheap (check out the sloppy mechanics group). The same goes for an automatic AWD DSM. Both of those have the potential to get into the 8's with little money, but it does take some fine tuning. However, I'm assuming you are interested in brand new production cars. The cars I listed above are all old and do not compare to the Tesla in anything other than drag racing. If you're interested, let me know and I can go into a more detailed breakdown of the last car I tuned (LSx swapped Mustang). As for new cars, it depends on how much work you're willing to do yourself vs paying a shop. Here's a link to a newer 5.0 Mustang with a completely stock engine and a ~$8500 twin turbo kit. He does have other supporting mods (tires, suspension, torque converter) that likely put him over the $10k mark, but you can also save a few thousand on the turbo kit by piecing it together yourself. "He estimates the car makes over 900 horsepower at the tire, but what really matters is the stock Coyote engine paired with an off-the-shelf Hellion turbo kit added up to an 8.6-second e.t. at over 150 mph." https://www.svtperformance.com/2015/04/13/feature-quickest-stock-coyote/ https://www.svtperformance.com/2015/04/13/feature-quickest-s...
dntrkv 9y ago
>The fastest 1/4 mile production cars are supercars such as the Veyron and 918, which are at or just under a 10seconds. Except for the Dodge Demon, which does the 1/4 in 9.65
- wallace_f 9y ago
  The 9.65 time is impressive, and the engineering team design as well. However, the claim is arguably disingenuous. Consider one needs a long time to go through a list of impractical things to prep the car to actually achieve that time, such as laying down what is literal tire glue to the road.
D_Alex 9y ago
Since D=0.5at^2, going 10->8 would need a 50% increase in acceleration.

Unklejoe 9y ago

You're right - I can't find any other car that can run 8's without modifications. There are some that can achieve those numbers with under $10,000 worth of modifications, but that's kind of irrelevant since we're talking about stock cars. That's also why I am skeptical of this Tesla running an 8 second pass in stock trim. Is there a video of the pass? Most of the 8 second cars I've seen are running slicks or drag radials, and usually weigh a lot less. I'd be curious to see how Tesla managed to make a car that probably weighs over 4000 pounds have enough traction for those numbers using regular tires. Even with all wheel drive, 8 second Nissan GTRs usually have to resort to slicks.

grecy 9y ago
> There are some that can achieve those numbers with under $10,000 worth of modifications Can you provide links? I seriously doubt you can get anything into the 8s with only $10k.
- Unklejoe 9y ago
  If we're talking about anything, you can build a turbo Gen 4 LSx swapped Foxbody Mustang for very cheap (check out the sloppy mechanics group). The same goes for an automatic AWD DSM. Both of those have the potential to get into the 8's with little money, but it does take some fine tuning. However, I'm assuming you are interested in brand new production cars. The cars I listed above are all old and do not compare to the Tesla in anything other than drag racing. If you're interested, let me know and I can go into a more detailed breakdown of the last car I tuned (LSx swapped Mustang). As for new cars, it depends on how much work you're willing to do yourself vs paying a shop. Here's a link to a newer 5.0 Mustang with a completely stock engine and a ~$8500 twin turbo kit. He does have other supporting mods (tires, suspension, torque converter) that likely put him over the $10k mark, but you can also save a few thousand on the turbo kit by piecing it together yourself. "He estimates the car makes over 900 horsepower at the tire, but what really matters is the stock Coyote engine paired with an off-the-shelf Hellion turbo kit added up to an 8.6-second e.t. at over 150 mph." https://www.svtperformance.com/2015/04/13/feature-quickest-stock-coyote/ https://www.svtperformance.com/2015/04/13/feature-quickest-s...

dntrkv 9y ago

>The fastest 1/4 mile production cars are supercars such as the Veyron and 918, which are at or just under a 10seconds. Except for the Dodge Demon, which does the 1/4 in 9.65

wallace_f 9y ago
The 9.65 time is impressive, and the engineering team design as well. However, the claim is arguably disingenuous. Consider one needs a long time to go through a list of impractical things to prep the car to actually achieve that time, such as laying down what is literal tire glue to the road.

D_Alex 9y ago

Since D=0.5at^2, going 10->8 would need a 50% increase in acceleration.