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Student dorms. While we're at it, let's rethink the whole social mess we're in with nuclear families. Vastly inefficient, totally anti-social. We need more comm

Student dorms. While we're at it, let's rethink the whole social mess we're in with nuclear families. Vastly inefficient, totally anti-social. We need more communities.

chrisseaton 9y ago
Yes, a bit like a very high end student dorm (like an Oxford or Cambridge college).
humanrebar 9y ago
Do you mean single family homes? Nuclear families seem to be empirically less poverty-prone than other family arrangements. And there seem to be higher order effects to the success of entire communities when there are relatively fewer nuclear families in the neighborhood.
- yorwba 9y ago
  > And there seem to be higher order effects to the success of entire communities when there are relatively fewer nuclear families in the neighborhood. Do you mean as opposed to singles or to extended families? In either case, I'd be interested in a source.
  - humanrebar 9y ago
    Well, there are an infinite number of lifestyles to be lived. I doubt there are good numbers on dormitory-style lifestyles, for instance. But current numbers show that married households fare well. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poverty_in_the_United_States#Poverty_and_family_status https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poverty_in_the_United_States#P... https://www.ssa.gov/retirementpolicy/fact-sheets/marital-status-poverty.html https://www.ssa.gov/retirementpolicy/fact-sheets/marital-sta... https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4240051/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4240051/
    - brandelune 9y ago
      Married households fare well because the tax system and plenty of other institutions favor married households. It doesn't have to the the case. Marriage is mostly a "capital" redistribution system and with strong public services (ie shared services) there is much less need to focus on the nuclear family as a protection (sharing of ressources) network. Ex. When a few years back pension laws changed in Japan and housewives got the right to get a pension separately from their husband, the rate of divorce boomed. There is nothing in the nuclear family that makes in a natural fit to what humans are as social animals.

Student dorms. While we're at it, let's rethink the whole social mess we're in with nuclear families. Vastly inefficient, totally anti-social. We need more communities.

chrisseaton 9y ago

Yes, a bit like a very high end student dorm (like an Oxford or Cambridge college).

humanrebar 9y ago

Do you mean single family homes? Nuclear families seem to be empirically less poverty-prone than other family arrangements. And there seem to be higher order effects to the success of entire communities when there are relatively fewer nuclear families in the neighborhood.

yorwba 9y ago
> And there seem to be higher order effects to the success of entire communities when there are relatively fewer nuclear families in the neighborhood. Do you mean as opposed to singles or to extended families? In either case, I'd be interested in a source.
- humanrebar 9y ago
  Well, there are an infinite number of lifestyles to be lived. I doubt there are good numbers on dormitory-style lifestyles, for instance. But current numbers show that married households fare well. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poverty_in_the_United_States#Poverty_and_family_status https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poverty_in_the_United_States#P... https://www.ssa.gov/retirementpolicy/fact-sheets/marital-status-poverty.html https://www.ssa.gov/retirementpolicy/fact-sheets/marital-sta... https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4240051/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4240051/
  - brandelune 9y ago
    Married households fare well because the tax system and plenty of other institutions favor married households. It doesn't have to the the case. Marriage is mostly a "capital" redistribution system and with strong public services (ie shared services) there is much less need to focus on the nuclear family as a protection (sharing of ressources) network. Ex. When a few years back pension laws changed in Japan and housewives got the right to get a pension separately from their husband, the rate of divorce boomed. There is nothing in the nuclear family that makes in a natural fit to what humans are as social animals.