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Oh please please please postgres support! The only free+open source option for Linux is Sqlectron (https://github.com/sqlectron/sqlectron-gui https://github.com

Oh please please please postgres support! The only free+open source option for Linux is Sqlectron (https://github.com/sqlectron/sqlectron-gui https://github.com/sqlectron/sqlectron-gui) which has massive performance issues. I badly want an alternative to DataGrip. It's great, but it's not free and its open source license criteria are frankly ridiculous [https://www.jetbrains.com/buy/opensource/?product=datagrip https://www.jetbrains.com/buy/opensource/?product=datagrip]: >> Your OS project may not offer paid sponsorship; receive funding from commercial companies or organizations (NGO, education, research, or governmental). You do not provide any paid support, consulting or training services for your OS project, and you do not distribute paid versions of your OS software. Contributors who are paid to work on the project are not eligible.

mnx 9y ago
Well, basically they only want to give it away for free, if you actually cannot pay for it. That seems reasonable. But I agree, an OS alternative would be great, and this seems like it could be it.
- scrollaway 9y ago
  Yeah, I understand the logic behind the licensing. However, under the guise of promoting open source, what this actually does is it promotes giving your work away for free and discourages making money with open source products. As a huge proponent of open source myself, I have no problem with projects that are open source and make money; anything that isn't "hobbyist level" should be able to make money, and if you want to make money your mindset shouldn't fall back on going closed source. Huge shout out to Sentry in that matter: They are open source, and if you're open source they service you for free. https://sentry.io/for/open-source/ https://sentry.io/for/open-source/ -- Comparatively, DataGrip is closed source, and they only give you a free license if you can't make money. Very different mindset...
  - mnx 9y ago
    I get your point, but also... You are complaining that they are not willing to give their work away, unless you are willing to give your work away.
    - scrollaway 9y ago
      But it's not symmetrical like that: DataGrip isn't open source. It's not so much a complaint (they're within their rights), I just find it uneasy to ask people to forego revenue. I feel it sends the wrong message and promotes the wrong mindset.
FuriouslyAdrift 9y ago
What about DBeaver? I use it all the time in Fedora to manage SQL Server and other DB's. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/DBeaver https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/DBeaver

mnx 9y ago

Well, basically they only want to give it away for free, if you actually cannot pay for it. That seems reasonable. But I agree, an OS alternative would be great, and this seems like it could be it.

scrollaway 9y ago
Yeah, I understand the logic behind the licensing. However, under the guise of promoting open source, what this actually does is it promotes giving your work away for free and discourages making money with open source products. As a huge proponent of open source myself, I have no problem with projects that are open source and make money; anything that isn't "hobbyist level" should be able to make money, and if you want to make money your mindset shouldn't fall back on going closed source. Huge shout out to Sentry in that matter: They are open source, and if you're open source they service you for free. https://sentry.io/for/open-source/ https://sentry.io/for/open-source/ -- Comparatively, DataGrip is closed source, and they only give you a free license if you can't make money. Very different mindset...
- mnx 9y ago
  I get your point, but also... You are complaining that they are not willing to give their work away, unless you are willing to give your work away.
  - scrollaway 9y ago
    But it's not symmetrical like that: DataGrip isn't open source. It's not so much a complaint (they're within their rights), I just find it uneasy to ask people to forego revenue. I feel it sends the wrong message and promotes the wrong mindset.

FuriouslyAdrift 9y ago

What about DBeaver? I use it all the time in Fedora to manage SQL Server and other DB's. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/DBeaver https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/DBeaver