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Meh. Am I the only one who wishes all this personal stuff had nothing to do with the business? Is it some new rule these days that startup founders have to pr

by gonk 16y ago

Meh. Am I the only one who wishes all this personal stuff had nothing to do with the business? Is it some new rule these days that startup founders have to prove they are 'real people' by sharing all the details of their lives? I mean, sure .. its sad to have to go through all that, but that stuff is personal. This story really has very little to do with reddit, other than to serve as a social means of establishing 'personality' behind the scenes of the service. Downvote me into oblivion, but I really have to say - fair enough, dude. You had a rough time. But that is life, you know? Need the whole world know you are suffering the normal, perfectly mundane, plain ol' human condition? I suppose in these techno-fuelled racey days of million-dollar teenagers it helps to have a little soap opera, to keep the balance, eh ..

kn0thing 16y ago
I didn't write it for pity and I hope it didn't come across that way. I left reddit nearly a year ago now. And I thought the one thing missing from the multitude of 'reasons to start a startup' posts was that it could actually be an incredibly beneficial personal decision - especially in times of dealing with the "normal, perfectly mundane, plain ol' human condition" that affects us all. I also don't think I'd have done nearly as many of those alien doodles or invested nearly as many hours as I did in reddit and the community had it not been an outlet for everything else. In that regard, I think it has a lot to do with reddit. Starting a startup with Steve was one of the best decisions I could've made, just for a very unexpected reason. I hope it convinces a few others that it's worth taking the plunge.
- gonk 16y ago
  I just don't see how its applicable to connect your experience with the fact that you started reddit .. I mean, fair enough, you have a lot of Internet celebrity credits, but you're spending them by telling the world details about your life that have no real bearing on your profession. The moral of the story? I guess it is that you should always try to persist in life no matter what gets thrown at you. I just found myself realizing, in the middle of your post, that I was spending my life reading about someone I don't even vaguely know, talking about how sad they were that their dog died. Is this really what its all about?
  - thetrumanshow 16y ago
    I am just really cringing for you right now... I know you don't really mean this, you just picked a bad article to quit reading right in the middle of before making a comment. Edit: per the commenter's followup, I withdraw my benefit-of-the-doubt.
    - gonk2 16y ago
      I read the whole article, and frankly this touchy-feely crap is just a bore.. on the basis of the post title, I thought I was going to read some great new insight into reddit, but it turned out to be little more than a soap opera targeted at the techno-cult gathering around their Net Personality De Jour. How many of you really know this person? Is the big revelation here that co-founders are people too, and that life is not all shiny macbooks and free money from millionaires to do whatever you want with? Well, what a shock .. welcome to the real world, kid. This heart-string tugging story has a relevance-sphere that doesn't really extend beyond this persons immediate friends and family .. do you all count yourself in that sphere? Seriously? Are no 'cult-like behaviour alarm' bells ringing in your head about now? Downvote away. By the way, I'm cringing reading the rest of this thread .. "I'm crying at work right now" .. freakin' give me a break, people. If this article demonstrates anything, its that you're all a bunch of fragile souls who probably need a little less hand-holding and TV-watching and validation-from-peers, and a lot more outside time getting to grips with real human emotions and circumstances ..
  - 9oliYQjP 16y ago
    His personal life very much had bearings on his professional life. People are very much affected at work by what they do outside of it, and vice versa. Positively speaking, the tough times in his personal life may have proven to be the sort of motivation that inspires people to do great things. Negatively speaking, perhaps if he'd been able to spend more time working on Reddit at the start, they'd be in an even better off position than they are now. But we'll never know. Regardless, while it is more extremely apparent in a startup, people's personal lives leak into their professional lives and vice versa. Something as small as the breakfast that you ate (or didn't) this morning affects your decisions and capabilities. When it comes to the bigger events in life, like family deaths, the repercussions in people's professional lives are quite significant. Hell, studies have shown that when men perform jobs that are too easy for them, their testosterone levels drop. That's a clearcut case of seemingly insignificant professional decision leaking into your personal life as testosterone levels affect so many personal choices.
- biturd 16y ago
  Cliche as hell but, "everything happens for a reason", or at least, it tends to work out that way. I'm truly sorry for the troubles you experienced; I'm truly jealous of the positive aspects that resulted from your troubles. I have a feeling you wouldn't change a thing given the opportunity. I don't sense much regret in your post; that's an amazing position to have been able to get to. Good luck with everything you embark on in the future.
  - nollidge 16y ago
    Please don't say "everything happens for a reason". It's a worthless post-hoc rationalization. There is no conceivable outcome that could be worth watching someone go through shit like that.
    - ekanes 16y ago
      I don't know what the GP meant by it, but "everything happens for a reason" can be of comfort when people are going through hard times. Connecting to purpose of some kind can help people find strength. It might not resonate for you, but it doesn't mean it can't help someone, sometime.
      - nollidge 16y ago
        You are correct, it does not resonate with me. But even worse, it makes me think you (the rhetorical you, of course, not YOU personally) are trying to invalidate the anger/sadness/grief that I feel. People go through some incredibly shitty times, and for you to walk into that and say "hey, look for the bright side!" is not helpful. > Connecting to purpose of some kind can help people find strength. Sure, it can, but I doubt they need you to point it out. The reason it's a cliche is because everybody's heard it before. So, OK, there's a chance you might say it to someone and it genuinely comforts them. But there's also a pretty good chance you're just going to alienate them. Up to you.
mcav 16y ago
It's not on the Reddit blog, it's on his personal website.
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biturd 16y ago
I get where your coming from. I think a lot of people find it therapeutic to write some form of journal. It's probably the number one thing any psychiatrist/psychologist will ask a patient to start doing. That has moved to the web, where everyone has a "journal", only they call em blogs now; and there is no "psychological trouble" requirement to write a blog. In this case, I think much of the same is happening. An individual is writing in his/her journal. Hundreds of thousands of people do so so every day. The only difference here is this blogger/journal writer happens to have an audience. I suspect he would have written it anyway, sans the audience, sitting on a failed startup, and without a known name in the industry. So I see where you are coming from, though I do think it's a lot less calculated or routine or par for the course as you feel. The only difference here is the audience. Somewhere out there, there is a guy like me, wanting a startup, without a name for himself, who has been through a bit more in regards to some struggles of life/human condition. Do I blog about it? Yup. Does anyone read it? Nope. Would I continue to blog about it were I a publicly known figure? Perhaps. Some stuff is private to a point, where I do desire others to read it in hopes it may help them. However, put me in a position of notoriety and my opinion may change. Right now, I like knowing that those very few who read my stuff don't know me, and I don't know them. It's a nice unspoken agreement of my blog and my position in this field. Give me success and a little fame, and you may be right; less appropriate a forum to be talking about those things. At the sane time, if that blog post helps only one person gain perspective and get through another single day of personal anguish, all the downsides are irrelevant to me, and I'm sticking with it being a good thing, as it helped one single person get through their own personal hell for that day. Commiseration can be your best friend in tough times. Just because you happen to have become noteworthy doesn't negate the power and value in knowing you are not alone. It's funny, we all know how non-unique our situations are. Everyone has been there, or similar. Yet as much as we know that, the second something goes wrong, we feel alone and unique in our situation. Blogs seem to help get our brains out of self pity and loathing and more in tune with the fact none of us are alone, and someone else has been there already, more than likely under worse circumstances. That can be very powerful medicine.
Confusion 16y ago
Am I the only one who wishes all this personal stuff had nothing to do with the business? No, you're not the only one. I don't doubt Alexis wished for the exact same thing: that none of this 'personal stuff' would happen.
brown9-2 16y ago
If you don't like it stop reading his personal blog.
- gonk 16y ago
  HN is his personal blog? I've never been to this guys site ever before, and probably not again ..

by gonk 16y ago

kn0thing 16y ago

I didn't write it for pity and I hope it didn't come across that way. I left reddit nearly a year ago now. And I thought the one thing missing from the multitude of 'reasons to start a startup' posts was that it could actually be an incredibly beneficial personal decision - especially in times of dealing with the "normal, perfectly mundane, plain ol' human condition" that affects us all. I also don't think I'd have done nearly as many of those alien doodles or invested nearly as many hours as I did in reddit and the community had it not been an outlet for everything else. In that regard, I think it has a lot to do with reddit. Starting a startup with Steve was one of the best decisions I could've made, just for a very unexpected reason. I hope it convinces a few others that it's worth taking the plunge.

gonk 16y ago
I just don't see how its applicable to connect your experience with the fact that you started reddit .. I mean, fair enough, you have a lot of Internet celebrity credits, but you're spending them by telling the world details about your life that have no real bearing on your profession. The moral of the story? I guess it is that you should always try to persist in life no matter what gets thrown at you. I just found myself realizing, in the middle of your post, that I was spending my life reading about someone I don't even vaguely know, talking about how sad they were that their dog died. Is this really what its all about?
- thetrumanshow 16y ago
  I am just really cringing for you right now... I know you don't really mean this, you just picked a bad article to quit reading right in the middle of before making a comment. Edit: per the commenter's followup, I withdraw my benefit-of-the-doubt.
  - gonk2 16y ago
    I read the whole article, and frankly this touchy-feely crap is just a bore.. on the basis of the post title, I thought I was going to read some great new insight into reddit, but it turned out to be little more than a soap opera targeted at the techno-cult gathering around their Net Personality De Jour. How many of you really know this person? Is the big revelation here that co-founders are people too, and that life is not all shiny macbooks and free money from millionaires to do whatever you want with? Well, what a shock .. welcome to the real world, kid. This heart-string tugging story has a relevance-sphere that doesn't really extend beyond this persons immediate friends and family .. do you all count yourself in that sphere? Seriously? Are no 'cult-like behaviour alarm' bells ringing in your head about now? Downvote away. By the way, I'm cringing reading the rest of this thread .. "I'm crying at work right now" .. freakin' give me a break, people. If this article demonstrates anything, its that you're all a bunch of fragile souls who probably need a little less hand-holding and TV-watching and validation-from-peers, and a lot more outside time getting to grips with real human emotions and circumstances ..
- 9oliYQjP 16y ago
  His personal life very much had bearings on his professional life. People are very much affected at work by what they do outside of it, and vice versa. Positively speaking, the tough times in his personal life may have proven to be the sort of motivation that inspires people to do great things. Negatively speaking, perhaps if he'd been able to spend more time working on Reddit at the start, they'd be in an even better off position than they are now. But we'll never know. Regardless, while it is more extremely apparent in a startup, people's personal lives leak into their professional lives and vice versa. Something as small as the breakfast that you ate (or didn't) this morning affects your decisions and capabilities. When it comes to the bigger events in life, like family deaths, the repercussions in people's professional lives are quite significant. Hell, studies have shown that when men perform jobs that are too easy for them, their testosterone levels drop. That's a clearcut case of seemingly insignificant professional decision leaking into your personal life as testosterone levels affect so many personal choices.
biturd 16y ago
Cliche as hell but, "everything happens for a reason", or at least, it tends to work out that way. I'm truly sorry for the troubles you experienced; I'm truly jealous of the positive aspects that resulted from your troubles. I have a feeling you wouldn't change a thing given the opportunity. I don't sense much regret in your post; that's an amazing position to have been able to get to. Good luck with everything you embark on in the future.
- nollidge 16y ago
  Please don't say "everything happens for a reason". It's a worthless post-hoc rationalization. There is no conceivable outcome that could be worth watching someone go through shit like that.
  - ekanes 16y ago
    I don't know what the GP meant by it, but "everything happens for a reason" can be of comfort when people are going through hard times. Connecting to purpose of some kind can help people find strength. It might not resonate for you, but it doesn't mean it can't help someone, sometime.
    - nollidge 16y ago
      You are correct, it does not resonate with me. But even worse, it makes me think you (the rhetorical you, of course, not YOU personally) are trying to invalidate the anger/sadness/grief that I feel. People go through some incredibly shitty times, and for you to walk into that and say "hey, look for the bright side!" is not helpful. > Connecting to purpose of some kind can help people find strength. Sure, it can, but I doubt they need you to point it out. The reason it's a cliche is because everybody's heard it before. So, OK, there's a chance you might say it to someone and it genuinely comforts them. But there's also a pretty good chance you're just going to alienate them. Up to you.

mcav 16y ago

It's not on the Reddit blog, it's on his personal website.

deleted 16y ago

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biturd 16y ago

I get where your coming from. I think a lot of people find it therapeutic to write some form of journal. It's probably the number one thing any psychiatrist/psychologist will ask a patient to start doing. That has moved to the web, where everyone has a "journal", only they call em blogs now; and there is no "psychological trouble" requirement to write a blog. In this case, I think much of the same is happening. An individual is writing in his/her journal. Hundreds of thousands of people do so so every day. The only difference here is this blogger/journal writer happens to have an audience. I suspect he would have written it anyway, sans the audience, sitting on a failed startup, and without a known name in the industry. So I see where you are coming from, though I do think it's a lot less calculated or routine or par for the course as you feel. The only difference here is the audience. Somewhere out there, there is a guy like me, wanting a startup, without a name for himself, who has been through a bit more in regards to some struggles of life/human condition. Do I blog about it? Yup. Does anyone read it? Nope. Would I continue to blog about it were I a publicly known figure? Perhaps. Some stuff is private to a point, where I do desire others to read it in hopes it may help them. However, put me in a position of notoriety and my opinion may change. Right now, I like knowing that those very few who read my stuff don't know me, and I don't know them. It's a nice unspoken agreement of my blog and my position in this field. Give me success and a little fame, and you may be right; less appropriate a forum to be talking about those things. At the sane time, if that blog post helps only one person gain perspective and get through another single day of personal anguish, all the downsides are irrelevant to me, and I'm sticking with it being a good thing, as it helped one single person get through their own personal hell for that day. Commiseration can be your best friend in tough times. Just because you happen to have become noteworthy doesn't negate the power and value in knowing you are not alone. It's funny, we all know how non-unique our situations are. Everyone has been there, or similar. Yet as much as we know that, the second something goes wrong, we feel alone and unique in our situation. Blogs seem to help get our brains out of self pity and loathing and more in tune with the fact none of us are alone, and someone else has been there already, more than likely under worse circumstances. That can be very powerful medicine.

Confusion 16y ago

Am I the only one who wishes all this personal stuff had nothing to do with the business? No, you're not the only one. I don't doubt Alexis wished for the exact same thing: that none of this 'personal stuff' would happen.

brown9-2 16y ago

If you don't like it stop reading his personal blog.

gonk 16y ago
HN is his personal blog? I've never been to this guys site ever before, and probably not again ..