I think that depends heavily on the ORM in question. ActiveRecord's SQL can become nightmarishly complicated but the same query in DataMapper looks alot like wh

I think that depends heavily on the ORM in question. ActiveRecord's SQL can become nightmarishly complicated but the same query in DataMapper looks alot like what might be written by hand. ActiveRecord is way more expressive than DataMapper, IMHO, particularly if you want to make a fancy query GUI, and it's because of the additional abstractions it builds into its SQL generator.