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> I'm sure a lot has changed since then Unfortunately no. I have had your experience on two other laptops (each in the $1000 range). In one case, it was a Ga

by Xurinos 16y ago

> I'm sure a lot has changed since then Unfortunately no. I have had your experience on two other laptops (each in the $1000 range). In one case, it was a Gateway with wireless and video card issues in linux. In the other case, it was an HP that I decided to update to the latest current Ubuntu, and now I cannot get it to sleep properly -- and it had no issues four releases ago (other than being behind the times). Both laptops work wonderfully with Windows. It is pretty disheartening because I really enjoy working in the linux environment.

sqrt17 16y ago
Now, where are the people complaining that they can't install MacOSX properly on their cheapo laptop? Or that [important part from a nameless company in Taiwan] stopped being supported in MacOSX Hyena? I mean, if Apple were not heavy-handedly preventing people from installing MacOSX on their run-off-the-mill non-Mac notebook, we'd hear similar horror stories, maybe also Vista-like disappointment when people try to install it on an underpowered machine.
- tvon 16y ago
  > Now, where are the people complaining that they can't install MacOSX properly on their cheapo laptop? Why would anyone complain about something they are very clearly not supposed to be able to do? It's well understood that OSX only runs on Apple hardware, it is far less clear that you need to be careful with Linux. Looking at ubuntu.com and going through the download process, the only mention I see of supported hardware is worded as "certified hardware" and placed in the footer under "Partners".
  - shpxnvz 16y ago
    Looking at ubuntu.com and going through the download process, the only mention I see of supported hardware is worded as "certified hardware" and placed in the footer under "Partners". I don't recall finding an exhaustive list of supported machines for other well known operating systems, either. Typically when purchasing hardware we rely on the manufacturer to indicate which operating systems the hardware works with. It seems wholly unreasonable to hold Ubuntu accountable for not running on a piece of hardware that no-one, including the manufacturer, claims it's compatible with.

by Xurinos 16y ago

sqrt17 16y ago

Now, where are the people complaining that they can't install MacOSX properly on their cheapo laptop? Or that [important part from a nameless company in Taiwan] stopped being supported in MacOSX Hyena? I mean, if Apple were not heavy-handedly preventing people from installing MacOSX on their run-off-the-mill non-Mac notebook, we'd hear similar horror stories, maybe also Vista-like disappointment when people try to install it on an underpowered machine.

tvon 16y ago
> Now, where are the people complaining that they can't install MacOSX properly on their cheapo laptop? Why would anyone complain about something they are very clearly not supposed to be able to do? It's well understood that OSX only runs on Apple hardware, it is far less clear that you need to be careful with Linux. Looking at ubuntu.com and going through the download process, the only mention I see of supported hardware is worded as "certified hardware" and placed in the footer under "Partners".
- shpxnvz 16y ago
  Looking at ubuntu.com and going through the download process, the only mention I see of supported hardware is worded as "certified hardware" and placed in the footer under "Partners". I don't recall finding an exhaustive list of supported machines for other well known operating systems, either. Typically when purchasing hardware we rely on the manufacturer to indicate which operating systems the hardware works with. It seems wholly unreasonable to hold Ubuntu accountable for not running on a piece of hardware that no-one, including the manufacturer, claims it's compatible with.