>whereas Pascal/Modula/Oberon are dead as a dodo. Dead as a dodo? You need to check your facts. For instance, the FreePascal mailing list is very much alive an

>whereas Pascal/Modula/Oberon are dead as a dodo. Dead as a dodo? You need to check your facts. For instance, the FreePascal mailing list is very much alive and well. People are using it to make and ship real projects and products. Not as many, maybe, in volume, compared to the most widely used languages such as Java, C#, C, JavaScript, etc., but definitely not a trivial number (anecdotal, based on what I've read, and seen on the mailing list). Heck, even Delphi, which is a descendant of Pascal, is still going somewhat strong, with many users, despite wrong turns taken by Borland and others who owned it at different times. And there is also Lazarus, a sort of free clone of Delphi, based on Free Pascal with GUI support, IDE and libraries added. As plenty of others have said here in the past, this board (HN) is representative of just a drop in the ocean compared to the amount of business software activity going on in the world. So you can't draw valid conclusions from what you read here, except for this microcosm.