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I don't think we had either climate models or remote sensing capabilities during World War II adequate to assess what climate effects may have resulted from the
by dwringer 9y ago
I don't think we had either climate models or remote sensing capabilities during World War II adequate to assess what climate effects may have resulted from the several firestorms that occurred. The 1991 Kuwait oil fires were apparently projected by some to cause a "petroleum winter", but these models were disputed and many simulations apparently suggested that the particles would not reach the stratosphere (and evidently they did not)[0]. However, it seems that since 1998[1] it has been known that smoke from naturally occurring firestorms (resulting from wildfires) can reach the stratosphere and cause regional climate effects significant enough to alter hemispheric temperature patterns.
[0] https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007%2F978-94-011-1685-5_3 https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007%2F978-94-011-1685-...
[1] http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2006AGUFM.U14A..04F http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2006AGUFM.U14A..04F
- ghostcluster 9y agoExcept Carl Sagan himself was one of the scientists advancing the "petroleum winter effect" in 1991 in the lead up to the gulf conflict, just as he advanced his nuclear winter scenario earlier.
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- dwringer 9y agoIf your point is that Carl Sagan may not be the foremost authority on nuclear winter, I think it's already been made (though, that is an interesting catch). I have no ability to speak on that subject, I was merely pointing out that I find it misleading to suggest that firestorms have been shown not to cause climate effects when the opposite is also true in some instances.