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This article is interesting; I would say that it is crucial that such warnings and such "celebrity" scientists enter the public debate (expecting backlash and s
by dpflan 9y ago
This article is interesting; I would say that it is crucial that such warnings and such "celebrity" scientists enter the public debate (expecting backlash and support and discussion - is this not similar to sharing research within one's academic community?). The public can have their existential dread soothed by the idea of nuclear weapons as defense, but it seems that their understanding of their usage is not sufficient. Sagan or someone needed to provide thoughtful discourse on the repercussions of using the weapon. It does seem great to think your nation can use this powerful tool to attack / ultimately defend its and your existence, but the power of and nature of the weapon requires understanding it. The scale of the weapon is not comprehensible, as much as say a simpler explosive device could be to layperson (voter?).
The advocates of SDI and nuclear did not seem to discuss the repercussions of use, rather the fact that the power is a deterrent and useful against enemies. The repercussions are what limit the use of nuclear as a strategic weapon.
Excerpt from the article:
'“People didn’t want to change the way they were thinking of [nuclear] weapons,” he says. “I see an echo of that now. What nuclear winter shows is that they’re not really weapons in the sense that other things are weapons: that you can use them to harm your adversary without harming yourself. People are not really considering that if there really were to be a nuclear conflagration, in addition to how unthinkably horrible it would be in the direct theater of the use of those weapons—say in the Korean peninsula and surrounding areas—there would also be global effects.”' - Grinspoon
- dpflan 9y ago'...there would also be global effects."' We can view the earth from orbit; we can be made aware of the fact that all nations are "in this together." So, to add some positivity to the comments thread, here is a video about the "Overview Effect" - maybe increased consumer space travel can help humanity's perspective; what if all major political leaders (G8 field trip!) had to go into space as "training/orientation" for their position... - https://vimeo.com/55073825 https://vimeo.com/55073825 - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overview_effect https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overview_effect
- ghostcluster 9y agoThe absolutely incorrect thing to do is to lie to the public by using your credibility as a scientist to knowingly make up your own incorrect story about the hypothetical effects. You wonder why so many people don't trust "scientists" when you can see they are clearly lying to push a social cause?
- dpflan 9y agoI agree. That is a true failure that has effects on all future scientists going public. Presenting hypothetical effects as a possibility and open to discussion / discourse is still important.